I think they have fallen short of what they were trying to produce, that might have been down to what I imagine their focus would be. I certainly don't think they have changed the game when it comes to wrestling in general, they are competition to WWE but it's mianly by the numbers more than anything rather than any revolution of what a big company delivers.Montana wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:37 amCompletely agree. AEW is toeing the line of WWE lite. They’ve got great talent, BUT almost everyone was better else where. Omega -njpw, Bucks -ROh, Pac-wwe/dg, moxley -Wwe , Jericho -Wwe, lax-impact, EtcBurningHammer wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:03 amOverall there are probably only the same amount maybe less that I would take from AEW. There best quality outweigh's ROH but overall, I am more connected to more wrestlers in ROH that I am with AEW.AnHonorableMention wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:23 pm
I'm definitely not putting the mentality of recreating the past with present talent Cobb/Joe. However, the cool factor was there from the getgo like Joe, it needed kid gloves from booking and management to grow. It never did for whatever reasons, booking, Taven fascination, willingness to deviate from a plan, etc. It's not necessarily about IQ or being the gold standard but in a company where everything feels lesser than Cobb was a guy putting the effort in. More than anyone on the G1 show, he put forth the most effort for ROH guys.
Look at it like this, who from current ROH fits in with AEW? Cobb, Bandido, Scurll, Haskins, Lethal, Briscoes, King, that's about it. Really makes me sad.
I think seven wrestlers from a roster that allready has multiple people who have been through ROH is a lot quite frankly, apart from two or three guys It's starting ROH's roster is become a well rounded, it needs some youth and better quality in certain areas, especially in the main event scene but it wouldn't take a lot to push a couple of people up the ladder into bigger spots.
I will say Rhodes as a character and on the mic are very good, but his in ring matches are still mostly average.
If ROH makes a push and keeps a lot of its current talent, they will be on par with Aew... minus the ex-Wwe mainstream Stars moxley, Jericho.
It sucks for ROH to always lose talent, but at least the roster refreshes every 3-4 years.
I would say Jericho and Cody have more than delivered on their end, the Bucks the same, Penta and Fenix have continued on their journey of best travelling tag team. Moxely has never done it for me and continues to be play act of what he represents, where people see great matches I just don't for whatever reason. PAC always deliveres quality but he doesn't feel a centre piece like he could be. Omega is playing himself more than ever and has been allowed to indulge into avenues that just make him less convincecing than ever. MJF is obviously more than star quality and someone that ROH should have taken two years he is as close to the golden age quality of Indy wrestling there has ever been. Same for Darby Allen and Sammy Guvevera those three have the chance to carry any company for a long time. Everything else for the most part is just doing it's thing and making hay while the sun shines but not much else so far.
I don't think ROH will reach there sort of numbers for at least a couple of years, of what would have to be excellence in all areas and a core roster sticking together, I just don't think it's that possible for ROH right now. They can certainly reach numbers that will be a noticable improvement and a solid foundation.
