Touche, my friend.Shanahan wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:31 pmIt's what i'd like...not reality...lolAnHonorableMention wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:29 pmIf you can't sell tickets to one show, why do 3 times the shows?Shanahan wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:24 pm I would like for them to do more triple shots....2 honorclub shows and then a tv taping for 3 weeks of tv where tv builds up to the honorclub shows. i'd only do 2 ppvs a year. BITW/FB. Also would get back to doing weekly recaps/storylines on youtube.
Sign about 8 new guys. 4 known guys and 4 younger guys who are ready to break out.
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Russo will never have a job in WWE, but he does get included to weigh in on the War for the Network content. Likewise, Feinstein and Cornette are essential pieces of ROH’s history and deserve to have their perspectives included.famicommander wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:45 pmFeinstein and Cornette? Are you high?supersonic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:25 pm I was told the more ideal scenario, which would require even more moving parts, would be for someone that's close to Khan and with the appropriate funds (perhaps sourced from Khan) to purchase ROH and run it as a completely separate company, not a different brand under AEW. In this case, both ROH and AEW would still have a shared on-demand video network similar to Hulu.
Furthermore, for the ROH history content, I'd reach out to anybody available, not just free agents and AEW-contracted individuals, but also difficult personalities like Cornette to Aries to even Feinstein. (Although if there was an overwhelming backlash to Feinstein's inclusion, he'd have to be removed.) They would be treated in the same way that Russo has been treated by WWE for the Monday Night War historical content.
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No, Feinstein deserves to be separated from civilized society and Jim Cornette deserves to be ignored like the crazy, disgusting old coot he is.supersonic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:10 amRusso will never have a job in WWE, but he does get included to weigh in on the War for the Network content. Likewise, Feinstein and Cornette are essential pieces of ROH’s history and deserve to have their perspectives included.famicommander wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:45 pmFeinstein and Cornette? Are you high?supersonic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:25 pm I was told the more ideal scenario, which would require even more moving parts, would be for someone that's close to Khan and with the appropriate funds (perhaps sourced from Khan) to purchase ROH and run it as a completely separate company, not a different brand under AEW. In this case, both ROH and AEW would still have a shared on-demand video network similar to Hulu.
Furthermore, for the ROH history content, I'd reach out to anybody available, not just free agents and AEW-contracted individuals, but also difficult personalities like Cornette to Aries to even Feinstein. (Although if there was an overwhelming backlash to Feinstein's inclusion, he'd have to be removed.) They would be treated in the same way that Russo has been treated by WWE for the Monday Night War historical content.
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A balanced perspective that takes all major parties into account, like the Nitro book, is much better than getting an incomplete, arguably editorialized historical account.famicommander wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:24 amNo, Feinstein deserves to be separated from civilized society and Jim Cornette deserves to be ignored like the crazy, disgusting old coot he is.supersonic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:10 amRusso will never have a job in WWE, but he does get included to weigh in on the War for the Network content. Likewise, Feinstein and Cornette are essential pieces of ROH’s history and deserve to have their perspectives included.
Feinstein founded the company. Cornette had multiple stints in each era, including bridging the ownership change which saved the company from death, in addition to getting the book for a significant period.
To claim morality as the reason to exclude them is to do an injustice to the ROH story. Since I’ve leaned on the MNW series, I’ll point out its huge flaw, which is that it conveniently ignores that WCW’s World Champion Benoit immediately jumped ship after winning the belt. That’s an incomplete story, and no behaviors, no matter how vile or malicious, make leaving blatant, emotionally convenient holes in the narrative historically, intellectually justifiable.
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Easily the dumbest thing you've ever posted and you have a long history of trolling, nerdy, wasted reads.supersonic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:10 amRusso will never have a job in WWE, but he does get included to weigh in on the War for the Network content. Likewise, Feinstein and Cornette are essential pieces of ROH’s history and deserve to have their perspectives included.famicommander wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:45 pmFeinstein and Cornette? Are you high?supersonic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:25 pm I was told the more ideal scenario, which would require even more moving parts, would be for someone that's close to Khan and with the appropriate funds (perhaps sourced from Khan) to purchase ROH and run it as a completely separate company, not a different brand under AEW. In this case, both ROH and AEW would still have a shared on-demand video network similar to Hulu.
Furthermore, for the ROH history content, I'd reach out to anybody available, not just free agents and AEW-contracted individuals, but also difficult personalities like Cornette to Aries to even Feinstein. (Although if there was an overwhelming backlash to Feinstein's inclusion, he'd have to be removed.) They would be treated in the same way that Russo has been treated by WWE for the Monday Night War historical content.
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How is it dumb? I agree, can have further insight into why things were booked how they were in their regimes. The ultimate score for retrospective peices though would be Gabe.
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I am more than fine for him to stay as far away as humanly possible from my TV screen and from society in general, are people completey forgetting his history as a human being.
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Complete history > moral convenience.AnHonorableMention wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:36 pmEasily the dumbest thing you've ever posted and you have a long history of trolling, nerdy, wasted reads.supersonic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:10 amRusso will never have a job in WWE, but he does get included to weigh in on the War for the Network content. Likewise, Feinstein and Cornette are essential pieces of ROH’s history and deserve to have their perspectives included.
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There are plenty of people they could talk to about Feinstein and Cornette.supersonic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:13 amComplete history > moral convenience.AnHonorableMention wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:36 pmEasily the dumbest thing you've ever posted and you have a long history of trolling, nerdy, wasted reads.supersonic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:10 am
Russo will never have a job in WWE, but he does get included to weigh in on the War for the Network content. Likewise, Feinstein and Cornette are essential pieces of ROH’s history and deserve to have their perspectives included.
And comparing them to Russo is ridiculous. Russo is a bit of a scuzzbag, slightly misogynistic, and a ridiculously terrible writer, but as far as we know he's not a criminal or a sicko. He's not messing with child porn or attacking people with baseball bats.
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"The following perspectives shared in this piece are not an endorsement of anyone that they come from. They've been included solely to provide the fullest perspective possible on ROH's history in its first 10 years of existence. We encourage all viewers to take all accounts shared and then form their own inclusions."famicommander wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:15 amThere are plenty of people they could talk to about Feinstein and Cornette.supersonic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:13 amComplete history > moral convenience.AnHonorableMention wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:36 pm
Easily the dumbest thing you've ever posted and you have a long history of trolling, nerdy, wasted reads.
And comparing them to Russo is ridiculous. Russo is a bit of a scuzzbag, slightly misogynistic, and a ridiculously terrible writer, but as far as we know he's not a criminal or a sicko. He's not messing with child porn or attacking people with baseball bats.
Then again, if I had been writing the Nitro book and Benoit was still alive serving life sentences, I'd have tried interviewing him to find out why he jumped from one company to another as world champion, SO I WOULD GET THE WHOLE STORY OF THE SUBJECT I'M COVERING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
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supersonic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:13 amComplete history > moral convenience.AnHonorableMention wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:36 pmEasily the dumbest thing you've ever posted and you have a long history of trolling, nerdy, wasted reads.supersonic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:10 am
Russo will never have a job in WWE, but he does get included to weigh in on the War for the Network content. Likewise, Feinstein and Cornette are essential pieces of ROH’s history and deserve to have their perspectives included.
If you think historical stuff is more important than someone who tried to molest a child and has had relations with under 18 people, as well as a racist piece of garbage then you have no moral compass.
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Don't forget that Cornette has a long history of physically assaulting employees, fans, and various other people to the point where he's banned from the entire country of Canada.AnHonorableMention wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:54 amsupersonic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:13 amComplete history > moral convenience.AnHonorableMention wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:36 pm
Easily the dumbest thing you've ever posted and you have a long history of trolling, nerdy, wasted reads.
If you think historical stuff is more important than someone who tried to molest a child and has had relations with under 18 people, as well as a racist piece of garbage then you have no moral compass.
Being a racist is bad enough but people tend to let Corny off the hook for even worse stuff, like attacking people in parking lots with baseball bats or hitting employees.
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Six ways, half a dozen the other my friend! I find racists to be the worst of the worst aside from child molesters. We all put our pants on one leg at a time no reason to hate someone because their pants cover skin of a different color.famicommander wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:56 amDon't forget that Cornette has a long history of physically assaulting employees, fans, and various other people to the point where he's banned from the entire country of Canada.AnHonorableMention wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:54 am
If you think historical stuff is more important than someone who tried to molest a child and has had relations with under 18 people, as well as a racist piece of garbage then you have no moral compass.
Being a racist is bad enough but people tend to let Corny off the hook for even worse stuff, like attacking people in parking lots with baseball bats or hitting employees.
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Since you want to make it personal, my moral compass is generally higher than the rest of society's as a vegan that doesn't subscribe to anthropocentrism. You've no idea what my opinion is on Feinstein and Cornette as human beings, just that they serve a purpose and have value in helping to provide full, complete histories on ROH, as would Benoit about the Monday Night War should he be alive serving life sentences. For the record, I would not shed a single tear if either one of them perished today. In my pitch, they are nothing more than interviewing commodities to provide some history on this company (as well as other companies in Cornette's case.)AnHonorableMention wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:54 amsupersonic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:13 amComplete history > moral convenience.AnHonorableMention wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:36 pm
Easily the dumbest thing you've ever posted and you have a long history of trolling, nerdy, wasted reads.
If you think historical stuff is more important than someone who tried to molest a child and has had relations with under 18 people, as well as a racist piece of garbage then you have no moral compass.
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A vegan?
Dear god, we've lost the moral high ground!
Everybody panic!
Dear god, we've lost the moral high ground!
Everybody panic!
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supersonic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:04 pmSince you want to make it personal, my moral compass is generally higher than the rest of society's as a vegan that doesn't subscribe to anthropocentrism. You've no idea what my opinion is on Feinstein and Cornette as human beings, just that they serve a purpose and have value in helping to provide full, complete histories on ROH, as would Benoit about the Monday Night War should he be alive serving life sentences. For the record, I would not shed a single tear if either one of them perished today. In my pitch, they are nothing more than interviewing commodities to provide some history on this company (as well as other companies in Cornette's case.)AnHonorableMention wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:54 am
If you think historical stuff is more important than someone who tried to molest a child and has had relations with under 18 people, as well as a racist piece of garbage then you have no moral compass.
I don’t eat red meat and generally don’t eat meat regularly either(so your food choice is not anything relevant). You are still standing up for using a pedophile, a racist and now a double murderer. Might as well just suggest everyone does illegal drugs because how would we know they’re bad if we don’t do them. You’ve out done yourself dude.
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I would definitely use anyone alive to provide a full historical texture on a subject at hand and there's nothing morally reprehensible about that.AnHonorableMention wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:54 pmsupersonic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:04 pmSince you want to make it personal, my moral compass is generally higher than the rest of society's as a vegan that doesn't subscribe to anthropocentrism. You've no idea what my opinion is on Feinstein and Cornette as human beings, just that they serve a purpose and have value in helping to provide full, complete histories on ROH, as would Benoit about the Monday Night War should he be alive serving life sentences. For the record, I would not shed a single tear if either one of them perished today. In my pitch, they are nothing more than interviewing commodities to provide some history on this company (as well as other companies in Cornette's case.)AnHonorableMention wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:54 am
If you think historical stuff is more important than someone who tried to molest a child and has had relations with under 18 people, as well as a racist piece of garbage then you have no moral compass.
I don’t eat red meat and generally don’t eat meat regularly either(so your food choice is not anything relevant). You are still standing up for using a pedophile, a racist and now a double murderer. Might as well just suggest everyone does illegal drugs because how would we know they’re bad if we don’t do them. You’ve out done yourself dude.
Russo was a flawed analogy to use. Hogan is featured in the MNW and other historical documents for his perspective (as untrue as it so often is) since he was such an obvious key figure. The gross error is in WWE bringing him back to be part of "the family" and a company ambassador, using him for marketing, promotional material, and live event appearances to generate profit and viewership. That shouldn't be happening until he truly shows remorse, which will never happen since he's too carny.
Your illegal drugs analogy is incoherent nonsense and you can do better. I have not outdone myself, and if anyone views myself as doing so, that's not an opinion that I'll be losing any sleep over.
I'll TRIPLE down on this too - if I were writing a book or filming a documentary about the legendary Legion of Boom defensive secondary, I'm going to absolutely everyone willing and able to provide perspectives on absolutely everything about that historically important time in Seahawks history, the good, bad, and the ugly.
That would include Brandon Browner, not only because he was an original LOB member, but he would turn out to be on the other side when the beginning of the end came for that Seahawks era in Super Bowl 49.
If showing a face or voice of these controversial people would be too much, then their quotes would just be shared for full historical accuracy.
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This guy makes a manic Donald Trump sound sane.supersonic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:58 amI would definitely use anyone alive to provide a full historical texture on a subject at hand and there's nothing morally reprehensible about that.AnHonorableMention wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:54 pmsupersonic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:04 pm
Since you want to make it personal, my moral compass is generally higher than the rest of society's as a vegan that doesn't subscribe to anthropocentrism. You've no idea what my opinion is on Feinstein and Cornette as human beings, just that they serve a purpose and have value in helping to provide full, complete histories on ROH, as would Benoit about the Monday Night War should he be alive serving life sentences. For the record, I would not shed a single tear if either one of them perished today. In my pitch, they are nothing more than interviewing commodities to provide some history on this company (as well as other companies in Cornette's case.)
I don’t eat red meat and generally don’t eat meat regularly either(so your food choice is not anything relevant). You are still standing up for using a pedophile, a racist and now a double murderer. Might as well just suggest everyone does illegal drugs because how would we know they’re bad if we don’t do them. You’ve out done yourself dude.
Russo was a flawed analogy to use. Hogan is featured in the MNW and other historical documents for his perspective (as untrue as it so often is) since he was such an obvious key figure. The gross error is in WWE bringing him back to be part of "the family" and a company ambassador, using him for marketing, promotional material, and live event appearances to generate profit and viewership. That shouldn't be happening until he truly shows remorse, which will never happen since he's too carny.
Your illegal drugs analogy is incoherent nonsense and you can do better. I have not outdone myself, and if anyone views myself as doing so, that's not an opinion that I'll be losing any sleep over.
I'll TRIPLE down on this too - if I were writing a book or filming a documentary about the legendary Legion of Boom defensive secondary, I'm going to absolutely everyone willing and able to provide perspectives on absolutely everything about that historically important time in Seahawks history, the good, bad, and the ugly.
That would include Brandon Browner, not only because he was an original LOB member, but he would turn out to be on the other side when the beginning of the end came for that Seahawks era in Super Bowl 49.
If showing a face or voice of these controversial people would be too much, then their quotes would just be shared for full historical accuracy.
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Cornette the racist Obama supporter. Gotcha.famicommander wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:56 amDon't forget that Cornette has a long history of physically assaulting employees, fans, and various other people to the point where he's banned from the entire country of Canada.AnHonorableMention wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:54 am
If you think historical stuff is more important than someone who tried to molest a child and has had relations with under 18 people, as well as a racist piece of garbage then you have no moral compass.
Being a racist is bad enough but people tend to let Corny off the hook for even worse stuff, like attacking people in parking lots with baseball bats or hitting employees.
I agree that he's a mental case, his own worst enemy, and a poor representative for old school wrestling, but in his latest controversy, he just told a joke.