Random ROH Thoughts Thread

[Mike0284]

Took advantage of the flash sale.

[BurningHammer]

It's probably just me but i really like the TKO Ryan "what have you done for me lately" promo, if he can keep that quality up and maybe just add a bit more confidence there could be gold there.

Also someone should really make 'a face only a mother could love' for Mark Briscoe

[AlexROH]

Hey, I know he isn't in ROH anymore. But yesterday I was able to talk with ACH and he told me a lot of interesting things, even from his ROH days and all of that. So if you want to give it a read, here you have:

https://translate.google.com/translate? ... t=&act=url

[kovs27]

Thanks for the interview Alex. It's interesting to see what ACH said about his time in ROH. If you feel complacent at your job then you start going through the motions. Sometimes a change is best for both parties.

[Montana]

A couple quick questions...

Is it safe to say there will not be a 2018 top prospect tournament?? With it being June, a women’s tournament this year, and a new international cup, it doesn’t look like it’s in the cards for this year. Maybe a good time for a break, but I liked the tournament, and watching some fresh faces getting a shot.

Anyone else think ROH May be done with live event DVDs?? I can see them continue releasing ppv’s and wrestler DVDs. Makes sense to stop with Honor Club and the growth of digital media.


Not sure if ROH has said anything official on either of these.

[Mr. Mojo Risin]

Hey, I know he isn't in ROH anymore. But yesterday I was able to talk with ACH and he told me a lot of interesting things, even from his ROH days and all of that. So if you want to give it a read, here you have:

https://translate.google.com/translate? ... t=&act=url

Good stuff, Alex. Gave me a different perspective on ACH.

[BurningHammer]

State of the Art night one was a very good tour show and showed what everyone can really do when motivated and not malinged by carnie mentality.

Sadly Night two came close to the worse show ROH has produced in quite some time, from the quality of wrestling that felt low, to the true carnie match that should never be allowed in wrestling these day let alone ROH, to the most riddiculous booking decission in quite some time in the main event. If there ever was a show to make me Lapsed it was this one, i hope this isn't a regular thing for ROH and very much a one off but if there is going to be this sort of trend I think that's it for me.

[alexsmellzzz]

State of the Art night one was a very good tour show and showed what everyone can really do when motivated and not malinged by carnie mentality.

Sadly Night two came close to the worse show ROH has produced in quite some time, from the quality of wrestling that felt low, to the true carnie match that should never be allowed in wrestling these day let alone ROH, to the most riddiculous booking decission in quite some time in the main event. If there ever was a show to make me Lapsed it was this one, i hope this isn't a regular thing for ROH and very much a one off but if there is going to be this sort of trend I think that's it for me.

I'll check out night 1 when I get some time, for sure. I actually didn't renew my Honor Club because the quality of the B shows right now is pretty low. And since it doesn't give you the PPVs for free, it's basically me throwing 10 bucks away if I sign up for Honor Club.

But yeah, I avoided this weekend's ROH shows because I knew they'd be pretty weak. I'm guessing the PPV will be your typical strong PPV effort from them, so that's a better one to watch if you're jaded on ROH.

I can't imagine people chose ROH over last night's NXT anyway. That opening tag match at Takeover was insane.

[Mr. Mojo Risin]

Congratulations to Adam Page for being selected to participate in his first G1 tournament.

[BurningHammer]

State of the Art night one was a very good tour show and showed what everyone can really do when motivated and not malinged by carnie mentality.

Sadly Night two came close to the worse show ROH has produced in quite some time, from the quality of wrestling that felt low, to the true carnie match that should never be allowed in wrestling these day let alone ROH, to the most riddiculous booking decission in quite some time in the main event. If there ever was a show to make me Lapsed it was this one, i hope this isn't a regular thing for ROH and very much a one off but if there is going to be this sort of trend I think that's it for me.

I'll check out night 1 when I get some time, for sure. I actually didn't renew my Honor Club because the quality of the B shows right now is pretty low. And since it doesn't give you the PPVs for free, it's basically me throwing 10 bucks away if I sign up for Honor Club.

But yeah, I avoided this weekend's ROH shows because I knew they'd be pretty weak. I'm guessing the PPV will be your typical strong PPV effort from them, so that's a better one to watch if you're jaded on ROH.

I can't imagine people chose ROH over last night's NXT anyway. That opening tag match at Takeover was insane.

Night one is well worth the watch for sure, to be honest i have enjoyed most of the BShows for a while but this had a hot crowd with a variety of match styles that gave it a great vibe and experience.

[Mike Adamle]

Congratulations to Adam Page for being selected to participate in his first G1 tournament.

Congrats indeed.

Now; to sound like a hypocrite, I'm a bit disappointed in the field. Only two new faces (and they're kind of meh) replacing two old faces (who I kind've would rather see.) Hope they show some fire and make me sound like an idiot.

[maxx_powerz]

Anyone else think ROH May be done with live event DVDs?? I can see them continue releasing ppv’s and wrestler DVDs. Makes sense to stop with Honor Club and the growth of digital media.

They sent a tweet out today for Final Battle 2017, someone commented asking about 2018 shows and the ROH account responded, saying that they're coming.

[maxx_powerz]

With as many house shows as ROH runs these days and how little of note happens, running a G1 style round robin tournament would do a lot to fill out B shows with matches that are kind of important without giving anything major away. Even if it's a scaled down eight person (two four person blocks) over two weekends or one triple shot with the final at a bigger show, I think it's worth a try.

[ICHIFUJI]

I want to see such tournament as tag division.

[cgstong]

Well sucks to see ROH lose the MSG deal. Respoted by PWInsider while conducting an interview with Joe Koff:

"You know, I’m going to tell you Mike because you are asking. I’m not going to discuss beyond this statement because I am not going to litigate this in the press. We had a deal with [Madison Square] Garden and they then told us they were backing out after communications from the WWE. We are not able to get any other dates in any kind of discussion. I’m expecting that our lawyers will be contacting all the parties involved and the best we can hope is that we can find a resolution, so we can bring the kind of energy and excitement that ROH and our partner New Japan to a bigger audience and to bigger arenas and to the fans of New York City."

[Wilson]

It's rarer that I side with Sinclair these days, but this news is really crushing. Reason why WWE can no longer have competition #6,012.

[BurningHammer]

What would be the next level of possible venues that ROH could use

[Big Red Machine]

With as many house shows as ROH runs these days and how little of note happens, running a G1 style round robin tournament would do a lot to fill out B shows with matches that are kind of important without giving anything major away. Even if it's a scaled down eight person (two four person blocks) over two weekends or one triple shot with the final at a bigger show, I think it's worth a try.

Agreed, though I'd settle for any on-going tournament, not even a round robin.

I want to see such tournament as tag division.

I think this would be the ideal way to do it, as the various tag team round robins in Japan get much less attention than the singles ones.
January is probably a good time of year for this, as New Japan's schedule is light, and most of ROH's teams are also teams that are at least on NJPW's radar, and with FantasticaMania being the January tour ROH might even be able to get a relatively high-level team from New Japan to come over (K.E.S.?).

[Montana]

Anyone else think ROH May be done with live event DVDs?? I can see them continue releasing ppv’s and wrestler DVDs. Makes sense to stop with Honor Club and the growth of digital media.

They sent a tweet out today for Final Battle 2017, someone commented asking about 2018 shows and the ROH account responded, saying that they're coming.

Cool... Thanks. I have to imagine that some point they throw in the towel.

[maxx_powerz]

Anyone else think ROH May be done with live event DVDs?? I can see them continue releasing ppv’s and wrestler DVDs. Makes sense to stop with Honor Club and the growth of digital media.

They sent a tweet out today for Final Battle 2017, someone commented asking about 2018 shows and the ROH account responded, saying that they're coming.

Cool... Thanks. I have to imagine that some point they throw in the towel.

I don't disagree, although I don't think it makes business sense. If I were to guess, I would expect ROH to have one of the older fan bases based on how old the company is and the relative lack of turnover at the top of the roster. So if DVD is still worth doing for WWE, Impact and most independents, it's hard for me to imagine it wouldn't be worth it for ROH. I just don't think they are willing to spend the extra money to keep updating Honor Club and stay on top of DVD production because they seem cheap that way.