ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD
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I find it surprising WWE would sign a guy like Fish at age 40. I mean, Styles and Roode were pretty old when they finally got there but both were multi-time world champs at major promotions before they signed.rovert wrote:Cool gimmick post. Listen to the Between The Ropes podcast. Fish inferred him joining WWE in June.Roque11 wrote:So all this hoopla over Fish and Rush leaving, yet they're still going to be working for ROH. LOL!
But good for Bobby, if that's what they do. Maybe they'll keep reDragon together... the one place WWE is pretty thin company-wide is tag teams. You could probably book one good tag division if you combined every tag team from Raw, SD, and NXT but it still wouldn't be great.
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Have Cole, O'Reilly, and Fish come into NXT together as a heel trio.
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THIS!!!!JTCole wrote:Have Cole, O'Reilly, and Fish come into NXT together as a heel trio.
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Sure it wouldn't be...famicommander wrote:I find it surprising WWE would sign a guy like Fish at age 40. I mean, Styles and Roode were pretty old when they finally got there but both were multi-time world champs at major promotions before they signed.rovert wrote:Cool gimmick post. Listen to the Between The Ropes podcast. Fish inferred him joining WWE in June.Roque11 wrote:So all this hoopla over Fish and Rush leaving, yet they're still going to be working for ROH. LOL!
But good for Bobby, if that's what they do. Maybe they'll keep reDragon together... the one place WWE is pretty thin company-wide is tag teams. You could probably book one good tag division if you combined every tag team from Raw, SD, and NXT but it still wouldn't be great.
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Well if we get to just make up tag teams then I'm putting Okada and Dalton Castle on a tag team.
But seriously... American Alpha, the Usos, Harper & Rowan, Breeze & Fandango, Golden Truth, Shining Stars, Enzo and Cass, Hype Bros, Vaudevillians, Ascension, Sheamus & (insert unfortunate bastard here) ... they don't do much for me. I like Rhino and Slater (mostly just Rhino), New Day, the Hardys, reDragon, TMDK, DIY, Kings of Wrestling, Steen & Generico, and Gallows & Anderson (mostly just Anderson) but most of those teams are either hypothetical or not yet in WWE.
But seriously... American Alpha, the Usos, Harper & Rowan, Breeze & Fandango, Golden Truth, Shining Stars, Enzo and Cass, Hype Bros, Vaudevillians, Ascension, Sheamus & (insert unfortunate bastard here) ... they don't do much for me. I like Rhino and Slater (mostly just Rhino), New Day, the Hardys, reDragon, TMDK, DIY, Kings of Wrestling, Steen & Generico, and Gallows & Anderson (mostly just Anderson) but most of those teams are either hypothetical or not yet in WWE.
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Which is a mindset that ROH really needs to get out of.JTCole wrote:Even if the non-contracted talent are staying in ROH they'll never be pushed to any meaningful role.
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Things in Wrestling in general are very much up in the air. I'd believe it when I see it.famicommander wrote:I find it surprising WWE would sign a guy like Fish at age 40. I mean, Styles and Roode were pretty old when they finally got there but both were multi-time world champs at major promotions before they signed.rovert wrote:Cool gimmick post. Listen to the Between The Ropes podcast. Fish inferred him joining WWE in June.Roque11 wrote:So all this hoopla over Fish and Rush leaving, yet they're still going to be working for ROH. LOL!
But good for Bobby, if that's what they do. Maybe they'll keep reDragon together... the one place WWE is pretty thin company-wide is tag teams. You could probably book one good tag division if you combined every tag team from Raw, SD, and NXT but it still wouldn't be great.
WWE and WWE talent relations have so many shiny toys or concerns between now and June - the UK, Women's Tournament etc. And so much talent they are not utilising fully.
The only WWE signing I'd call a lock is Adam Cole. Much like War Machine Kyle O'Reilly getting a strong offer from New Japan is foreseeable. With Fish following his lead.
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yeah having half a roster full of guys who you cant put the title on isnt idealJTCole wrote:Even if the non-contracted talent are staying in ROH they'll never be pushed to any meaningful role.
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rovert wrote:famicommander wrote:So now you're saying what I've been saying all along regarding War Machine, Fish and O'Reilly.[/quote wrote:
Things in Wrestling in general are very much up in the air. I'd believe it when I see it.
WWE and WWE talent relations have so many shiny toys or concerns between now and June - the UK, Women's Tournament etc. And so much talent they are not utilising fully.
The only WWE signing I'd call a lock is Adam Cole. Much like War Machine Kyle O'Reilly getting a strong offer from New Japan is foreseeable. With Fish following his lead.
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The thing about Japan is you pretty much have to sacrifice your personal life to work full time there.
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NJPW is "full"...just watch. Words of Tiger himself.
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Still most wrestlers will choose New Japan over WWE if they have to choose between the two. The mentality of wrestlers today is to copy the movesets of their favorite wrestlers from Japan and the UK or to try to imitate whatever they see in UFC fights. Wrestlers today care more about having the match of the year than they do in drawing real money with charisma, characters, mic work and storylines.JTCole wrote:The thing about Japan is you pretty much have to sacrifice your personal life to work full time there.
I've said it from day one, people like Kyle are too elite of competitors to choose WWE over New Japan.
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If Kyle wants to wrestle in Japan over WWE he'll do it.
And honestly I don't think WWE would even offer him much to join, he's not a guy they can build around. Maybe he'd do better in NXT but even there they have a ton of guys more worthy. Not insulting him, just that I believe Hero, Strong, and even Lorcan are better fits.
And honestly I don't think WWE would even offer him much to join, he's not a guy they can build around. Maybe he'd do better in NXT but even there they have a ton of guys more worthy. Not insulting him, just that I believe Hero, Strong, and even Lorcan are better fits.
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Yeah, totally not an issue in today's pro wrestling.Roque11 wrote:Still most wrestlers will choose New Japan over WWE if they have to choose between the two. The mentality of wrestlers today is to copy the movesets of their favorite wrestlers from Japan and the UK or to try to imitate whatever they see in UFC fights. Wrestlers today care more about having the match of the year than they do in drawing real money with charisma, characters, mic work and storylines.
Are you actually buying that horseshit you're writing ?I've said it from day one, people like Kyle are too elite of competitors to choose WWE over New Japan.
O'Reilly isn't cut to be a super serious no-nonsense badass. He doesn't wrestle like a badass (maybe he should dump stupid spots like the spaghetti legs and "i'm trying so hard to reach the ropes") nor act like one (I almost expect him to cry whenever he's """acting""" tough and mean). Again, his most noteworthy run was being one half of a tag team and acting like a smarmy dickhead.
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You’re being disruptive and dismissive.Roque11 wrote: So now you're saying what I've been saying all along regarding War Machine, Fish and O'Reilly.
rovert has always mentioned that O’Reilly would not be with the company and that War Machine could leave because at least one member of the team is seriously considering it. rovert has also been providing follow-throughs or updates to all three talent, which seem to be plausible on their face and are often later corroborated by news outlets.
You’ve just been saying it because you want it to be true. Case in point:
This is such a wildly inaccurate expression that it’s hard to even counterargue. Every wrestler has different professional values and different values to specific environment that stating something so monolithic is bound to make you sound like a weird goobus. The reasons for War Machine perhaps wanting to work with NJPW rather than WWE or ROH would be so much different to Kyle’s, and so on.Roque11 wrote:Still most wrestlers will choose New Japan over WWE if they have to choose between the two. The mentality of wrestlers today is to copy the movesets of their favorite wrestlers from Japan and the UK or to try to imitate whatever they see in UFC fights. Wrestlers today care more about having the match of the year than they do in drawing real money with charisma, characters, mic work and storylines.
I've said it from day one, people like Kyle are too elite of competitors to choose WWE over New Japan.
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Kyle would be fine in NXT as an obnoxious heel.
I don't see him being successful in any other role due to his own limitations.
I don't see him being successful in any other role due to his own limitations.
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Thelone was spot on and hilarious.Thelone wrote:Yeah, totally not an issue in today's pro wrestling.Roque11 wrote:Still most wrestlers will choose New Japan over WWE if they have to choose between the two. The mentality of wrestlers today is to copy the movesets of their favorite wrestlers from Japan and the UK or to try to imitate whatever they see in UFC fights. Wrestlers today care more about having the match of the year than they do in drawing real money with charisma, characters, mic work and storylines.
Are you actually buying that horseshit you're writing ?I've said it from day one, people like Kyle are too elite of competitors to choose WWE over New Japan.
O'Reilly isn't cut to be a super serious no-nonsense badass. He doesn't wrestle like a badass (maybe he should dump stupid spots like the spaghetti legs and "i'm trying so hard to reach the ropes") nor act like one (I almost expect him to cry whenever he's """acting""" tough and mean). Again, his most noteworthy run was being one half of a tag team and acting like a smarmy dickhead.