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September 21, 1998 Nitro review:
Nitro on 9/21 at the Fleet Center in Boston drew 15,144 (14,280 paying $265,279). The show was so bad, and granted Nitro is bad a lot of weeks and they've had bad PPV shows and their business is still great, but this came off as a show that will start the erosion of the business over the long haul. Show opened with Hall showing up acting like he was loaded and Doug Dillenger trying to sober him up. They went to the ring. It filled with steam. Disciple was there when the ring cleared asleep on the mat. Hogan and NWO B&W showed up trying to recapture the prisoner but the dreaded, and I do mean dreaded, steam came. It must not have been the crippling variety of the nerve gas since nobody else fell asleep this time, but Disciple was gone when the smoke cleared. Warrior was then in the rafters with this blow-up doll dressed up like Disciple and I mean, this was lame. We were supposed to think, since they didn't to close-ups, that this doll was the same Disciple who was just in the ring. Amazing how the blow-up Ed Leslie doll was just as talented as the real life one. I don't know that this show got worse after this horrible segment, but only in spots did it get better. David Finlay beat Barry Darsow in 3:45 with a tombstone piledriver. Actually at this point I think Bischoff was using this show as a model for his new book, "How to kill the most rabid live crowd." Wrath beat Nick Dinsmore in 2:10 with the melt down. Rick Steiner beat Rick Fuller with a bulldog off the top in 58 seconds. Rick challenged Scott and started delivering a terrible interview. Luckily they immediately went to a commercial. But when they came back, Hogan and company were back challenging Warrior to show up. Warrior was in the aisle. While the fans did pop pretty big for the steam early in the show, once the two guys started talking the fans were booing them both. Warrior left. Hogan was chasing him. Nobody could find Warrior. Hogan went to his dressing room and Warrior had it spray painted and there were small fires everywhere. Disciple was passed out in the bathroom. Hogan panicked although I have no idea why because he's seen that idiot like that nightly for years. He tried to wake him up, but God only knows what he'd done. As he tried to recapture him, more steam, and wouldn't you know it, he was gone again. WCW spent years trying to get into all these cities that WWF had a stronghold in and all these buildings. And now they're self destructing. Anyway, at this point Bischoff was retitling his book, "How to kill the biggest wrestling company in the world." Raven & Kanyon beat Los Villanos IV & V. They did a combination power bomb (Kanyon) and neckbreaker (Raven) spot on V-IV. Raven appeared to tug on the neckbreaker way ahead of the power bomb and the spot looked horrendous, especially if you're a Villano. Nick Patrick freaked. They immediately stopped the match in 47 seconds without a pin. Raven broke character immediately and looked totally concerned. V-IV (Tomas Diaz Mendoza) was laid out for a while and it was eerily similar to the scene with Bagwell. Finally he got up and went to the back although he was glassy eyed and after some prompting, was taken to the hospital where he was released that night and diagnosed as having a sprained neck. The spot looked sick in slow-mo. The announcers had major Bagwell flashbacks watching it. Alex Wright came out and said he was sick of WCW. At that point, he wasn't exactly alone. He challenged Page and said if he won, he'd get the title shot at Goldberg. Fat chance. Mike Tenay insisted that Page is the people's champion. Maybe the Village People, but not any other people. Page won with the diamond cutter in 1:26. The people's champ (now let me get this straight, why is he the people's champ and not Rocky?) did an interview and all the people were chanting "Goldberg" at him. Some fans were booing him and others were quiet. Thankfully the Mug Root Beer commercial came on and the old ref was the best thing thus far on the show once again. Ernest Miller beat Lenny Lane in 2:39 with a spinning roundhouse kick. At this point I was trying to find some form of entertainment out of this show so decided to count the moves Miller would miss in this match. So he picks this night not to miss any. There was no way to have fun watching this show. Hall showed up while this match was going on so it we got to see both of the company's dumbest angles at the same time. Kind of like combining two real bad drugs at the same time, both together multiplies the bad affects that you'd expecting adding both of them up. Or in a wrestling vernacular, it means Nitro loses a quarter hour when Jeff Jarrett is on Raw. Bischoff was re-naming his book, "How I can teach New Japan to increase profits because I have the model." Dusty came out to drag Hall away, looking like he's put on another 50 big ones since we last saw him. Saturn beat Jerry Flynn in 6:05 with the death valley driver. It wasn't good, but compared to everything else thus far, it was a masterpiece. Scott Steiner & Bagwell came out for their promo. Boy did they destroy a superstar-maker angle with Bagwell. They blabbed about Bret Hart. The interview got progressively worse as it went on. They challenged Hart to come out. They both jumped him when he did. Sting made the save. Billy Kidman beat Disco Inferno in 10:45 with the shooting star press to keep the cruiserweight title in a very good match. They aired all the footage taped for Thunder when Disco was supposed to challenge Juvi for the title where he was so busy trying to lose weight that he was exhausted once the match started. But they turned it into a good match anyway. Konnan beat Chavo Guerrero Jr. in 10:41 with the Tequila Sunrise. Not bad but too long, especially for this live audience. Bischoff came out with Elizabeth to try and sell the loving fans of Boston the book he was writing. The Four Horseman showed up. Dillenger blocked the ring. Finally Dillenger, after Bischoff started talking about who pays him and they brought up Dillenger and his crew were all originally from Charlotte, stepped aside. Actually that was the coolest thing Dillenger has probably done in the past 50 years. Flair and Bischoff got into an argument about the lawsuit and who was really more of a positive influence on the business in the 80s between he and Hogan that went over nearly everyone's head. The crowd reaction was a disappointment for the entire segment although Flair's delivery was awesome and Bischoff was a great heel. When Flair was putting over the Horsemen, the crowd heavily booed McMichael. Bottom line. He's got to go. Nobody buys him. Flair told Bischoff to "Suck it." Isn't wrestling a wonderful business? Every other week I read one owner ripping the other owner for ripping fans off in some way or using dirty language, and then they just copy the ones they claim are ruining their opposing company. WWF complains about old guys who can't wrestle and then puts Slaughter in a match. WWF complains about giving PPV matches on free TV and then does it. WCW complains about dirty language and then steals the other sides catch phrase. They both rip on each other for false advertising and not living up to stipulations and then somebody breaks a window in one of their glass houses. Main event saw Nash & Luger no decision with Giant & Stevie Ray in about 4:30. Can somebody get Bobby Walker to drop his lawsuit so we don't have to watch Ray in main events. Beyond terrible. Michael Buffer called Giant the master of the powerslam. Maybe in hotel rooms, but certainly not in the ring. Hall showed up and the match just ended, although it had long since died. Nash, almost embarrassed by everything (and he did his part by doing nothing in the match), almost apologetically issued a challenge to Hall for a match. Since Hall's gimmick is so over and such a big ratings draw, nobody popped at all for the challenge in a feud they'd been building up for months and holding off ever getting in the ring so as to not rush things. Finally Hogan showed up and challenged Warrior again. Warrior came out with Disciple, who this time was awake and wearing an OWN insignia on his jacket. After the show went off the air, they finished with Disciple hitting the ring and beating up Hogan while the crowd booed both guys and chanted "Nitro sux" and "boring." The reason Disciple hit the ring and not Warrior, and why Warrior didn't ever take his jacket off, is because he's got the torn bicep and the bad ankle and can't move, and his arm shrunk. But he is going to work the Vegas match no matter what. Actually even though nearly everyone resents him making seven figures for like 36 days of work (and is that figure becoming more of an embarrassment by the week?), he hasn't been the nut case backstage that his reputation said he would be. Then again, he hasn't been asked to put anyone over yet either. People were furious about Goldberg not being there and there were a lot of Nitro sux chants by the fans in the parking lot after the show as well. It had been hinted that this would be Goldberg's one year Anniversary since his TV debut was 9/22 of last year in Salt Lake City. He was there and fans knew it since many knew he was in town the previous day for an autograph session (he arrived two hours late which a lot of fans also knew). This is a true story. Because Goldberg has been getting so much positive press from being Jewish, they didn't want to get the Jewish community mad by having him wrestle on Rosh Hashana. You know, because 32 years ago Sandy Koufax (this totally awesome baseball pitcher for the Dodgers) wouldn't pitch in a World Series game although that was on Yom Kippur, which is a much bigger Jewish holiday and someone got confused between the two and decided not to have him appear

During the commercial break over the p.a., Flair said to Bischoff that he wanted his job

After the taping, Bischoff immediately flew to Japan to appear at the 9/23 Yokohama Arena show and give New Japan his book to try and turn their business around
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Misterio Jr. vs. Hayashi was scheduled for 10/26 Nitro but was canceled at the last minute to give more time for the Horace Boulder segments. You can imagine the heat over that internally
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WCW was a fucked up company in it's last year in existence to say the least. Some say they were like that throughout, but in the last year especially.
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WCW was the original LOLTNA.
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