Official Death Before Dishonor XIV TV Tapings Thread

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Post by monster mafia » Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:31 pm

they need to make taylor and lee vs war machine in the ppv

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Post by Wilson » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:01 am

Of course there is no follow-up for Page and no program for Jay Briscoe.

Cole vs. Elgin, Addiction vs. Young Bucks vs. Motor City, and Naito vs. Lethal are all very good on paper. If ROH had the same momentum as it did in 2014, I would be keenly anticipating ASE. At least we finally have a real inter-promotional feud for PPV.

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Post by 187_Joeism » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:33 am

The inter-promotional thing some people here wanted for so long does nothing for me, Lethal vs Naito will be great but i don´t foward to it more or less because of that.

I agree with Page follow up, they had more Bullet Club member there, no reason or excuse why they didn´t do Cole & Yujiro vs Elgin & Tanahashi for example.
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Post by Big Red Machine » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:55 am

187_Joeism wrote:The inter-promotional thing some people here wanted for so long does nothing for me, Lethal vs Naito will be great but i don´t foward to it more or less because of that.

I agree with Page follow up, they had more Bullet Club member there, no reason or excuse why they didn´t do Cole & Yujiro vs Elgin & Tanahashi for example.
Totally agree about everything. I don't get why people are all excited for the idea of an "interpromotional feud." It's not like there is bad blood between ROH and New Japan. They are very public partners. It's not like this is WWE vs. WCW or CMLL vs. AAA or even ROH vs. CZW. There is no "feud" here. It's just interpromotional matches. It's the same reason I'm not excited for the WWN vs. Progress card at WrestleMania weekend. I'd rather they just used Progress guys on the EVOLVE show.

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Post by Wilson » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:00 am

It's not about a prosaic general NJPW vs. ROH feud, we already see those every May. It's about New Japan wrestlers having good stories and feuds with ROH wrestlers. Hopefully Naito and Lethal is the start of a trend.

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Post by 187_Joeism » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:03 am

If that helps people to stop complaining then yeah do it, it just do nothing for me but if it does for others then great.
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Post by christopherclinton55 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:01 am

Hopefully face Lethal is a countdown to him leaving and going to Evolve and NXT

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Post by 187_Joeism » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:50 am

Lethal is the most important member of the roster right now with Jay Briscoe & Adam Cole, i hope they keep him strong so a win over him means something and not job him to everyone now.
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Post by monster mafia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:35 pm

Hopefully lethal stays in roh.

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Post by BlackLesnar » Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:04 pm

WHERE THE FUCK IS GRESHAM
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Post by monster mafia » Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:47 pm

BlackLesnar wrote:WHERE THE FUCK IS GRESHAM
signed for Pittsburgh and Lockport

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Post by BlackLesnar » Wed Aug 24, 2016 6:58 am

It's something.

Thanks dude.
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Post by DXvsNWO1994 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:55 pm

So here's what the card for All-Star Extravaganza VIII is looking like so far (according to the report from the TV Tapings in The Wrestling Observer):

- ROH World Title - Adam Cole vs. Michael Elgin
- ROH World Tag Team Titles - The Addiction defending in a Ladder Match (not made clear if it was against one team or multiple. I would guess the latter).
- Jay Lethal vs. Tetsuya Naito
- Fight Without Honor - War Machine vs. Keith Lee & Shane Taylor

While this wasn't said, I would guess we'd get Bobby Fish vs. Donovan Dijak for the ROH World TV Title here (since the PPV is in New England, aka Dijak's neck of the woods), so that would be five. Dragon Lee will be there from CMLL, so whatever match he's involved in would make six.

Thoughts on the card, as it looks currently?
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Post by BurningHammer » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:17 am

I imagine they will do Dragon Lee vs Kamaitachi considering the history and the availability to do it.

I like the card, all of it makes sense or at least will have a build and if all the matches deliver then I'm sure many will like it. My only concern would be the FWH and the Ladder Match as they could really over deliver and burn out the crowd or really under and throw the crowd out of it. Personally I would just have War Machine vs KL and ST in an normal match as I think it would add more importance to have there FWH match on another PPV card.

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Post by 187_Joeism » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:24 am

I hope War Machine vs Keith Lee & Shane Taylor is not a FWH, is a minor complain because the match is going to be great no matter what but i hope they do the exact same match but with other name and do the FWH later if they want to.

The card looks promising, i think they will add Kamaitachi vs Dragon Lee too, Adam Page vs Kyle is likely, i don´t know the plan with Jay White, maybe a rematch from the TV Tapings? Jay White & Lio Rush vs Briscoes would be another good match for this PPV.

I also wish they give Silas something to do, maybe him vs EVIL? He had Shibata and then Toru Yano, they can do a gimmick of hating the NJ guys if they want with him.
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Post by BurningHammer » Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:53 am

I imagine they could also carry on with Adam Page and Briscoe as I don't think they are done there, plus I think you are right about Silas I can see them going through the route.

They could do Kyle vs Lee but they will have an other opponent set for Kyle.

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Re: Official Death Before Dishonor XIV TV Tapings Thread

Post by monster mafia » Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:22 am

if they wanna do that fwh,do it at final battle..anyway that match can be awesome

the card looks good...i have the feeling that elgin vs cole could be a moty candidate

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Post by jordidebaas » Thu Aug 25, 2016 7:42 am

They're probably going to do Kyle vs Cole in some kind of gimmick match there already. I don't really mind having the FWH and the ladder match on the same card here, as the ladder match is probably not going to be an intense hardcore match or anything, but just a spotfest
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Re: Official Death Before Dishonor XIV TV Tapings Thread

Post by DXvsNWO1994 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 8:26 am

To be fair, with regards to War Machine vs. Keith Lee & Shane Taylor, Meltzer said "Fight Without Honor", but we won't know until it's announced. Could be just a Street Fight or a No DQ Match (they're all basically the same thing, but still....).
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Re: Official Death Before Dishonor XIV TV Tapings Thread

Post by JigsawVs.Jason » Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:19 am

DXvsNWO1994 wrote:To be fair, with regards to War Machine vs. Keith Lee & Shane Taylor, Meltzer said "Fight Without Honor", but we won't know until it's announced. Could be just a Street Fight or a No DQ Match (they're all basically the same thing, but still....).
AS others have mentioned, it shouldn't be a FWH as of yet, they only had a couple of matches thus far, it's not nearly enough personal to warrant one of the big feud enders.
I also do not really like the idea of doing a ladder war in such a relatively weakly booked multi team feud, it should be reserved for the big feuds.
Maybe War Machine vs Lee & Taylor could be a Street Fight and the three way a lucha rules match.
Other than these minor complaints, looks like a promising card, I really like how the new guys (RUSH, White, Kamaitachi, Dijak, Lee & Taylor) have been organically included into the ROH landscape. They definitely have made ROH feel fresh again.
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