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Figured I'd get a thread going on ROH's next show, their annual blockbuster, Final Battle. There could be some spoilers ahead, if you haven't caught up with the honorclub shows.

Friday, December 13THBell Time @ 08:00 PM EDT
UMBC Event Center
1000 Hilltop Circle
21250 Baltimore , MD
United States

Doors open / Meet and Greets Begin: 6:30 pm
Pre-Show: 7:30pm
Bell Time: 8:00pm



Announced Matches

ROH World Championship
Rush (C) vs. PCO

ROH Tag Team Championship
The Briscoes vs. Jay Lethal & Jonathan Gresham

Street Fight
Mark Haskins vs. Bully Ray

Grudge Match
Matt Taven vs. Vincent

Television Title
Shane Taylor vs. Dragon Lee

Jeff Cobb vs. Dan Maff

Marty Scurll & Flip Gordon vs. Bandido & Flamita (Mexablood)



Rumored matches / on-going feuds

Dalton Castle & Joe Hendry vs. Silas Young and Josh Woods
Maria Manic vs. Angelina Love
Batman vs. T. Williams -


Remaining Top Talent:
Brody King
PJ Black
Alex Shelly
Colt Cabana
Kenny King
Bouncers

Haskins vs Bully Ray is the worst. ROH better be carefull they dont chase Haskins away.

i hope Haskins becomes heel and turns on lifeblood. Joining forces with Bateman

My biggest concern with the show is the lack of proper build up to the feuds it will have. Which falls back on booking. May not entirely be their fault as many wrestlers contracts are nearing expiration, injuries, and the cancelled Texas shows.

As for the booked matches:

Rush and PCO is what it is. Solid main event, but lacks an interesting build up. (Personally I think it's a perfect time for a 4 way between Rush vs. Cobb vs. Marty vs. PCO)

Briscoes/Lethal/Gresham - Great match, and pretty good build for the time they had to do it.

Maria Manic vs. Angelina Love - 30 second squash right?


Rumored Matches

Taven vs. Vincent - OK match, but interesting from the storyline perspective.

Bully vs. Haskins - OK match, at least it has some build to it.

Batman/Williams & Klien/Mandy are kind of throw away matches.... Some of these could be at Final Battle Fallout.


Remaining Top Talent - This is what scares me. You've got all these top guys with little/no storyline feuds heading into the biggest show of the year. I'm sure they can build a couple show stealers from this list, but again, they really should have something for guys like Dalton, Marty, Cobb, Alex Shelley, etc. Injuried guys like Brody King, and Bandido I get. Either way, this is NOT how you book your biggest show of the year. Maybe ROH can put together some great matches, but again it will lack an interesting build up.

All in all, I'm sure it will be a very good show, just would have liked a little far buildup.

my dream card for this show with a little of fantasy booking and real stuff right now

Rush vs PCO

Lethal/Gresham vs Briscoes

Villain Enterprises ( Marty, Brody, Flip) vs Lifeblood ( Haskins, Williams, Bandido)

Shane Taylor vs Dragon Lee

Kelly Klein vs Maria Manic vs Angelina Love

Taven vs Vincent

Alex Shelley vs Jeff Cobb (????)

Joe Hendry / Dalton Castle vs Young Woods

Kenny King vs PJ Black ( pre show)

I think they will probably go with Williams vs Bateman and Haskins vs Bully (Their ROH careers on the line) in Philly.

Additional matches I can see

Taven vs Vinny (Vinny debuts his hounds of horrors to defeat Taven, Taven rebuilds the Kingdom to end them)

Three Man Belts

VE vs LifeBlood

If Marty is staying I see them loosing the titles, (although that may depend on Bandido’s contract status too) just too the make the turn even greater at the end.

Special Challenge match

Cobb vs Shelley (Maybe we will see Shelley heel turn and join in Gresham and Lethal)

Number one Contenders match for World title

Kenny King vs PJ Black.

TV Title Match

Taylor vs Dragon Lee

Though it mind be a multiman match with PJ, Cobb, Shelley involved as well.

Maybe pre show

I can see a tag match with Castle/Hendry against Young/Woods.

We aren’t too far off their from each other Mafia.

I like the cards listed. It does feel like villain Enterprises and lifeblood should have a blowoff -loser disbands match.

With Bully attacking Haskins , who knows if they felt the lifeblood and VE feud was done. Either way, Haskins role in final battle will be interesting.

No Jeff Cobb at Final Battle. He is a part of World Tag League.

What a bummer...tag league is shit.

World Tag league ends on December 8th, Final Battle is on December 13th. They are all fine.

BurningHammer wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:29 am World Tag league ends on December 8th, Final Battle is on December 13th. They are all fine.

My fault. I thought the dates crossed over.

kovs27 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:50 am

BurningHammer wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:29 am World Tag league ends on December 8th, Final Battle is on December 13th. They are all fine.

My fault. I thought the dates crossed over.

No worries, I have a feeling that’s why Final Battle’s date has been moved around a bit, just to try and compensate for AEW and the Tag League. It’s actually good to see ROH thinking about this and working around it the best they can.

Really haskins vs bully at fb? Why

I wish they would've just brought in some other ECW original to chase Bubba outta ROH a long time ago.

Just have Rhino or Stevie or 2 Cold Scorpio pop up, beat him down with a chair, the end.

monster mafia wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:06 am Really haskins vs bully at fb? Why

As much as i could do without Bully Ray... He's probably the biggest name in ROH to the casual audience. Bully's storyline is that Mark Haskins is a nobody, and in reality i think Mark Haskins is still getting over with the US audience. I think the people that watch and follow ROH he's earned their respect, but outside of that, Haskins isn't a draw/demanded wrestler at the moment. In reality, he's on par with Marty in terms of in ring quality. So in some sense, the whole point of this, is to get Bully on the FB card, with a year long feud (he cost Haskins the title in Grand Rapid, WOTW) and hopefully you get Mark Haskin's more over. I think it's a fair argument that say Haskins vs Hendry could tear the house down and get both guys over better. Either way, i think ROH's intent was to get Haskins featured more in a singles role against a notable opponent.

how are the tickets selling?

indyfan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 5:14 am how are the tickets selling?

There's lots of seats available. Only 10-12 second row seats still available at this point (all of first row is sold out at least).

Official

Grudge Match: Matt Taven vs Vincent
Roh tv tittle : Shane Taylor vs Dragon Lee

Vinny in a singles match... no thanks.

this show is not feeling like a Final Battle whatsoever. This year has been such a step-down for ROH, in terms of quality.

From watching the Wednesday night wrestling shows to looking at this one... lol. AEW and NXT weekly shows look better than this PPV lineup. Like, it’s not even close. And ROH has time and (supposedly) money to set stuff up. I’m not sure what their deal is, but this show doesn’t look like a step in the right direction.

This show definitely feels like "let's get this year over with and start fresh" kind of show. I'm a little more excited for the Philly Fallout show as of right now.