I will agree with that assessment.supersonic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:38 pmROH doesn’t take itself seriously anymore, so I’m content with it being a glorified vanity/vacation for the NJPW stars. NJPW has come closest to carrying the serious business torch held by ROH and NOAH during the 2000s.Wilson wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:33 amThis is eerily how I feel about Being the Elite in ROH these days. No one's going to talk about how bullshit Stephen Amell being in a main event match of a big show starring Kenny Omega is? ROH's main storytelling thrust is being dragged along by a week-to-week improv internet sketch show starring Jackson's best buddies. This is so weak.The Dragon Saga wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:08 am PWG is just a thing that Super Dragon and Excalibur use to stay active in wrestling and hang around with their friends. In all honesty, its "momentum" that it apparently had a couple years ago has been slowly falling off and I think it will most likely continue to do so in the future.
Hope the undercard at least put on a good show.
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Wow. I thought Floslam were incompetent fucks for the Evolve deal, but that's just hillbilly dumb. I hope Sinclair sues the shit out of them.monster mafia wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:29 pm Ring of Honor Executive Greg Gilliend has issued a statement to PWInsider about FloSlam covering their Survival of the Fittest event in San Antonio, Texas last night.
He said: “It was brought to my attention that Floslam or Floslam representatives were fraudulently covering our San Antonio event yesterday, streaming video and posting photos to Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. This has created an illusion that we are somehow working with them. Ring of Honor are in no way affiliated with Floslam and their actions yesterday were unauthorized.“
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So from what I can tell from Twitter...
Andy Dalton beat Lou Gotti in a Future of Honor match.
MCMG vs. Rey Cometa and Esfinge turned into a 4-way tag when The Dawgs and Silas Young & Beer City Bruiser were added. Not sure if it was still for the titles or not. MCMG won.
There was a flaming table used in the Texas Death Match.
Andy Dalton beat Lou Gotti in a Future of Honor match.
MCMG vs. Rey Cometa and Esfinge turned into a 4-way tag when The Dawgs and Silas Young & Beer City Bruiser were added. Not sure if it was still for the titles or not. MCMG won.
There was a flaming table used in the Texas Death Match.
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Whaaaaaaat even. Good lord Daniels. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't wrestle tomorrow...
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supersonic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:38 pm
ROH doesn’t take itself seriously anymore, so I’m content with it being a glorified vanity/vacation for the NJPW stars. NJPW has come closest to carrying the serious business torch held by ROH and NOAH during the 2000s.
EVOLVE is much more serious than New Japan. No Yano.
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You can say that again.
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Quick results from @gagaart1:
- Kenny King def. Scorpio Sky
- Taven def. Cheese
- Flip def. O'Ryan
- Gresham def. Marseglia
- MCMG def. CMLL, Dawgs and Bruiser/Silas
- Scurll def. Woods
- Lethal/Dalton def. Bucks
- Cody def. Daniels
Described as a great show with a great crowd. Best matches in order were --> Cody vs Daniels (one of Cody's best matches), Bucks vs Lethal/Dalton and O'Ryan vs Flip. Kazarian posted on his Twitter that he has flying back to his home in LA (I don't know why), so the card changed a little. Since Bruiser was at the tag match, people thought they weren't going to see Marty, so when he showed up, the crowd exploded.
SOTF Finals for today -> Martinez vs Silas vs Taylor vs Taven vs Flip vs Gresham. I'm all in for Silas winning and him having a title match at the Anniversary next year.
- Kenny King def. Scorpio Sky
- Taven def. Cheese
- Flip def. O'Ryan
- Gresham def. Marseglia
- MCMG def. CMLL, Dawgs and Bruiser/Silas
- Scurll def. Woods
- Lethal/Dalton def. Bucks
- Cody def. Daniels
Described as a great show with a great crowd. Best matches in order were --> Cody vs Daniels (one of Cody's best matches), Bucks vs Lethal/Dalton and O'Ryan vs Flip. Kazarian posted on his Twitter that he has flying back to his home in LA (I don't know why), so the card changed a little. Since Bruiser was at the tag match, people thought they weren't going to see Marty, so when he showed up, the crowd exploded.
SOTF Finals for today -> Martinez vs Silas vs Taylor vs Taven vs Flip vs Gresham. I'm all in for Silas winning and him having a title match at the Anniversary next year.
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Christopher Daniels must really take that vanity project seriously, huh?
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So if Frankie is out, that leaves Dalton without a match. And I'm still doubting Daniels is competing a day after receiving what looks like 2nd degree burns. So Scurll is out of a match. I don't think they'll do Scurll/Dalton, but since they couldn't do it yesterday, maybe they'll do Scurll/Bruiser tonight.
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daniels fucking legend.,..what a pro.
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I really like that the six guys in the finals are all guys who would be greatly elevated with a win.
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I know hindsight and all, but if you're going to do a fire spot, wear the right clothing and protect yourself. The reports seem to make it that the entire match was strongly built, and then had this really unique, and consequential, crescendo. Kudos to the work put in, though, more importantly, please never do this spot again.
A few days ago I was going to make a joke that Daniels was showing ass to a degree that made him the equivalent of Gedo to Cody's Okada, creative talent written in to be so unremittingly beneath their project that their own star power just plummets. As the veteran with limited mileage left, Daniels should be decisively putting over Cody, but the amount that's being done here is hyperbolic. Daniels was a World Champion in June and will be opening Final Battle in a few weeks.
The finals of Martinez vs Silas vs Taylor vs Taven vs Flip vs Gresham is mostly written as the right people but it sorely lacks at least one or two legitimate stars. (For example, replacing Taylor with Scurll would have been a great option, doubly so for not having all of the Final Battle TV Title contenders in one match.) Hear! hear! on Silas finally winning something. With Castle winning the Soaring Eagle Cup, Scurll/Lethal at Final Battle, and the inevitably fresh challenger tonight, ROH will have a stock of directions to keep the World Title going for at least the next few months.
A few days ago I was going to make a joke that Daniels was showing ass to a degree that made him the equivalent of Gedo to Cody's Okada, creative talent written in to be so unremittingly beneath their project that their own star power just plummets. As the veteran with limited mileage left, Daniels should be decisively putting over Cody, but the amount that's being done here is hyperbolic. Daniels was a World Champion in June and will be opening Final Battle in a few weeks.
The finals of Martinez vs Silas vs Taylor vs Taven vs Flip vs Gresham is mostly written as the right people but it sorely lacks at least one or two legitimate stars. (For example, replacing Taylor with Scurll would have been a great option, doubly so for not having all of the Final Battle TV Title contenders in one match.) Hear! hear! on Silas finally winning something. With Castle winning the Soaring Eagle Cup, Scurll/Lethal at Final Battle, and the inevitably fresh challenger tonight, ROH will have a stock of directions to keep the World Title going for at least the next few months.
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I don't frequent this board like I used to a couple years ago.Mr. Mojo Risin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:19 pmI said it earlier in the thread. Taven is my dark horse.
Tomato cans don't stand a chance.
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I think he’s just tacking onto what you said.GardenStateSaint wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:35 amI don't frequent this board like I used to a couple years ago.Mr. Mojo Risin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:19 pmI said it earlier in the thread. Taven is my dark horse.
I’m hoping if Silas or Taven win, that Dalton will win at Final Battle. Silas/Castle would be a good 16YA main event, especially considering their history in Las Vegas. Taven/Castle would be pretty good too, considering they’ve wrestled each other on tiny indies, and to main event a PPV together would be a good story for them.
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I was just saying I agree with you man.GardenStateSaint wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:35 amI don't frequent this board like I used to a couple years ago.Mr. Mojo Risin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:19 pmI said it earlier in the thread. Taven is my dark horse.
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Yeah I am in the same boat. Taven and Silas are true heels and perfect opponents for Castle should he win the title.TYFDK wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:21 amI think he’s just tacking onto what you said.GardenStateSaint wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:35 amI don't frequent this board like I used to a couple years ago.Mr. Mojo Risin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:19 pm
I said it earlier in the thread. Taven is my dark horse.
I’m hoping if Silas or Taven win, that Dalton will win at Final Battle. Silas/Castle would be a good 16YA main event, especially considering their history in Las Vegas. Taven/Castle would be pretty good too, considering they’ve wrestled each other on tiny indies, and to main event a PPV together would be a good story for them.
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Looks like Joey Ryan will be competing here tonight again.