Fix Best in the World '16

Vanilla Gorilla · Post by **Vanilla Gorilla** » Thu May 12, 2016 2:09 pm

See some people complaining about the BITW card.

Fix it - how would the card for BITW look if you were in Delirious' mask?

monster mafia · Post by **monster mafia** » Thu May 12, 2016 3:00 pm

Kyle vs Jay Lethal

Adam Cole vs Jay Briscoe

The addiction vs mcmg (maybe)

young bucks vs big in usa (chris hero & colt cabana)

Dalton Castle vs Bobby Fish

ACH vs Silas Young

Donovan Dijak vs Adam Page

Lio Rush Vs Kamaitachi

Vanilla Gorilla · Post by **Vanilla Gorilla** » Thu May 12, 2016 3:15 pm

monster mafia wrote:Kyle vs Jay Lethal

Adam Cole vs Jay Briscoe

The addiction vs mcmg (maybe)

young bucks vs big in usa (chris hero & colt cabana)

Dalton Castle vs Bobby Fish

ACH vs Silas Young

Donovan Dijak vs Adam Page

Lio Rush Vs Kamaitachi

Coming off the last PPV and the show immediately following -

do you consider Lethal vs. Briscoe vs. Cole in a 3-way?
or Sabin vs. Page, since he just hanged him? or you feel the MCMG vs Addiction has never wrapped up + the newly promised tag title match at the last show, so that HAS to be done?

Thelone · Post by **Thelone** » Thu May 12, 2016 3:31 pm

Cabana vs. Cole vs. O'Reilly vs. Lethal (c)
ACH & Sydal vs. Addiction (c)
Castle vs. Fish (c)
MCMG & ??? vs. Young Bucks & Page

Rest is pretty much filler.

monster mafia · Post by **monster mafia** » Thu May 12, 2016 4:14 pm

Vanilla Gorilla wrote:
monster mafia wrote:Kyle vs Jay Lethal

Adam Cole vs Jay Briscoe

The addiction vs mcmg (maybe)

young bucks vs big in usa (chris hero & colt cabana)

Dalton Castle vs Bobby Fish

ACH vs Silas Young

Donovan Dijak vs Adam Page

Lio Rush Vs Kamaitachi
Coming off the last PPV and the show immediately following -

do you consider Lethal vs. Briscoe vs. Cole in a 3-way?
or Sabin vs. Page, since he just hanged him? or you feel the MCMG vs Addiction has never wrapped up + the newly promised tag title match at the last show, so that HAS to be done?

another 3 way or 4 way is weird
mcmg are the no 1 contenders so..thats fine
roh roster is too large..a lot of talent off of my card.
i want cole vs cabana but what for jay briscoe?...

Vanilla Gorilla · Post by **Vanilla Gorilla** » Thu May 12, 2016 4:41 pm

How about:

Lethal v Cole

Briscoes + Cabana v Young Bucks + Page

Castle v Fish

MCMG v Addiction

Moose v Hanson

O'Reilly v ACH

Dijak v Silas

Strong v Rush

Post by **DXvsNWO1994** » Thu May 12, 2016 5:50 pm

Thelone wrote:Cabana vs. Cole vs. O'Reilly vs. Lethal (c)
ACH & Sydal vs. Addiction (c)
Castle vs. Fish (c)
MCMG & ??? vs. Young Bucks & Page

Rest is pretty much filler.

The Four-Way Main Event is actually what I was thinking, though honestly, I might have had Cabana win the title at the PPV. I think Cole & The Bullet Club might have come off better as heels by ruining Cabana's big moment in Chicago. He holds the title for six weeks, and Cole wins it here.

Can't do ACH & Sydal since the two went there separate ways as a team in Dearborn.

monster mafia · Post by **monster mafia** » Thu May 12, 2016 6:11 pm

DXvsNWO1994 wrote:
Thelone wrote:Cabana vs. Cole vs. O'Reilly vs. Lethal (c)
ACH & Sydal vs. Addiction (c)
Castle vs. Fish (c)
MCMG & ??? vs. Young Bucks & Page

Rest is pretty much filler.
The Four-Way Main Event is actually what I was thinking, though honestly, I might have had Cabana win the title at the PPV. I think Cole & The Bullet Club might have come off better as heels by ruining Cabana's big moment in Chicago. He holds the title for six weeks, and Cole wins it here.

Can't do ACH & Sydal since the two went there separate ways as a team in Dearborn.

great idea,cabana winning and bc beating after...and by the way if ach is not elevated after "breaking" with sydal..he is fucked.

dhads7161 · Post by **dhads7161** » Thu May 12, 2016 7:46 pm

I think the Lethal vs. Brisco match is fine. Though I think it would be a much better house show match than a PPV match, I have no problem with it main eventing. Just hopefully there's a good card with it.

The Dragon Saga · Post by **The Dragon Saga** » Fri May 13, 2016 12:19 am

What needs to be fixed?

We don't even know 1/2 the card yet.

Thelone · Post by **Thelone** » Fri May 13, 2016 3:24 am

DXvsNWO1994 wrote:The Four-Way Main Event is actually what I was thinking, though honestly, I might have had Cabana win the title at the PPV. I think Cole & The Bullet Club might have come off better as heels by ruining Cabana's big moment in Chicago. He holds the title for six weeks, and Cole wins it here.

Can't do ACH & Sydal since the two went there separate ways as a team in Dearborn.

Wait, what ?

They were (very lightly) pushing the idea that those two were on the same page since the best of five and they were actually on a winning streak since November (beat RPG Vice, Young Bucks, ANX and BCB/Young). I know there are rumors of Sydal signing with NJPW and he's also on BOSJ and thus missing a good chunk of the Road to BITW shows, but you couldn't just give them the title match at the PPV anyway and have them lose ?

Burnside · Post by **Burnside** » Fri May 13, 2016 3:29 am

Are reDRagon and the Bucks even available for this show? Aren't they in Best of Super Juniors, along with Sydal?

The Dragon Saga · Post by **The Dragon Saga** » Fri May 13, 2016 3:54 am

Well all five are listed to appear so I assume they've something sorted out so that they can appear.

Only glaring omission to me is Colt Cabana. But he wasn't listed for Dearborn either and he appeared there so maybe he's kind of up in the air. I did read he has to restructure a lot of upcoming dates to fix in ROH dates, or so he said on his podcast or something.

jordidebaas · Post by **jordidebaas** » Fri May 13, 2016 3:55 am

BOSJ ends 7.6, BITW coincides with the first day of the Kizuna Road Tour.
I would personally do Lethal vs. Cole in the main event, and not give Kyle or Colt another shot until Cole's won the belt. The only problem you'd then have is Briscoe not having gotten his rematch yet, which I think would mean more against Lethal after BITW last year, and I don't think they should do Cole vs. Briscoe again, we've seen that one enough times already. Personally, I think doing Lethal vs Briscoe would've been a good ME for SCOH, so they could do Cole vs Lethal here. You could then round out the card with
Caslte vs Fish
Probably the Bucks winning the tag titles
Some other matches, maybe Cabana vs Page

The Dragon Saga · Post by **The Dragon Saga** » Fri May 13, 2016 4:19 am

The intention to me at least is that their trying to go for Briscoe winning the title back exactly a year after he lost it. Jay did have a point in his promo from San Antonio, Lethal says hes beaten everybody and he has, but he hasn't beaten Jay when defending the ROH World Championship so Briscoe and Cole are the last members of the ROH roster to really have chances against Lethal in one-on-one situations. So give Briscoe the chance here.

Then you've another problem because Adam Cole doesn't deserve a shot. He didn't even appear to wrestle at the Toronto TV taping. Colt Cabana was screwed out of his title match, so why not do Cole vs. Cabana and build it as a first time ever match, because from what I can remember they haven't faced before. Winner gets a shot at Lethal/Briscoe at DBD in Vegas. You'll have the entire Bullet Club in Vegas because New Japan talent will be there also, so in the mean time you start building to Lethal trying to find people to have his back to nobody doing it, but when push comes to shove The Briscoes, Cabana or whoever will fend off the Bullet Club.

I don't have any problem with the card so far. I think the tag match could be good, I like the main event, I like the TV title match, I even like that Corino/Whitmer will finally come to an end and I feel people should realize this is the match they wanted to do at Final Battle and Corino deserves respect for doing this, only thing I think should be added is Cabana vs. Cole or a Team Cabana vs. Bullet Club match.

JigsawVs.Jason · Post by **JigsawVs.Jason** » Fri May 13, 2016 4:35 am

The Dragon Saga wrote:What needs to be fixed?

We don't even know 1/2 the card yet.

This. The matches they'va announced thus far look really good.

dhads7161 · Post by **dhads7161** » Fri May 13, 2016 4:51 am

-Lethal vs. Jay Briscoe
-Cole vs. Cabana
-MCMG vs. Addiction
-Mark Briscoe & War Machine vs. Page & The Bucks
-Castle vs. Fish
-Haven't seen one of these in a long time...HONOR RUMBLE for a future Television Championship Match (O'Reilly, Strong, Moose, ACH, Sydal, Young, Dijak, King, Titus, Cheeseburger, Ferrara, Rush, Dadiego, Brutal Bob, Kamaitachi)
-Corino vs. Whitmer (Feud sucks but I think they could have a good war)

Vanilla Gorilla · Post by **Vanilla Gorilla** » Fri May 13, 2016 4:55 am

The Dragon Saga wrote:What needs to be fixed?

We don't even know 1/2 the card yet.

another thread has several people calling it a shit card, good punishment for North Carolina and an easy card to skip. So, if there's complaints about it, I want to see how others might fix it

Vanilla Gorilla · Post by **Vanilla Gorilla** » Fri May 13, 2016 4:59 am

dhads7161 wrote:-Lethal vs. Jay Briscoe
-Cole vs. Cabana
-MCMG vs. Addiction
-Mark Briscoe & War Machine vs. Page & The Bucks
-Castle vs. Fish
-Haven't seen one of these in a long time...HONOR RUMBLE for a future Television Championship Match (O'Reilly, Strong, Moose, ACH, Sydal, Young, Dijak, King, Titus, Cheeseburger, Ferrara, Rush, Dadiego, Brutal Bob, Kamaitachi)
-Corino vs. Whitmer (Feud sucks but I think they could have a good war)

I like this one. I thought about M.Briscoe v Page 1 on 1, too.

jordidebaas · Post by **jordidebaas** » Fri May 13, 2016 4:59 am

dhads7161 wrote:-Lethal vs. Jay Briscoe
-Cole vs. Cabana
-MCMG vs. Addiction
-Mark Briscoe & War Machine vs. Page & The Bucks
-Castle vs. Fish
-Haven't seen one of these in a long time...HONOR RUMBLE for a future Television Championship Match (O'Reilly, Strong, Moose, ACH, Sydal, Young, Dijak, King, Titus, Cheeseburger, Ferrara, Rush, Dadiego, Brutal Bob, Kamaitachi)
-Corino vs. Whitmer (Feud sucks but I think they could have a good war)

Doing on honor rumble is a bad idea by itself, doing it on PPV would be even worse

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