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This... actually makes a lot of sense. You're right that it's completely out of character for such things to be talked about so openly, and I could definitely see Delirious being desperate enough to agree to something like this just to get some more dates out of these guys.WHG wrote: ↑Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:44 pm I may be way off base on this, but it feels like the sudden Elite departures are a work of sorts. Cody announcing FB as his last ROH match weeks ago is what made me think of it.
By all accounts Cody and the Bucks a)Have a pretty solid relationship with ROH management; and b)View the industry much differently from a black and white “we’re not working here anymore so we can start our own thing” mentality.
My theory is that some combination of Cody, the Bucks and Paige win the titles at FB and run a reverse invasion angle where they’re starting their own promotion and taking the titles with them.
To be clear, I do believe that AEW is real and that they aren’t signing new deals...but think they’ve agreed to this storyline as a way to launch their new promotion (kind of a reverse invasion storyline) over the next year. Why wouldn’t they want to continue to use that platform to promote their new venture...while also earning a regular paycheck before their promotion gets underway?
Koff openly talking about them leaving ahead of Final Battle seems fishy as well. Why would he admit his title matches are almost certain to turn out a certain way?
As I said, I could be way off (and it’s a crazy theory), but I think we could be in for a ROH vs. Elite/AEW angle dominating the creative in 2019.
WHG wrote: ↑Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:44 pm I may be way off base on this, but it feels like the sudden Elite departures are a work of sorts. Cody announcing FB as his last ROH match weeks ago is what made me think of it.
By all accounts Cody and the Bucks a)Have a pretty solid relationship with ROH management; and b)View the industry much differently from a black and white “we’re not working here anymore so we can start our own thing” mentality.
My theory is that some combination of Cody, the Bucks and Paige win the titles at FB and run a reverse invasion angle where they’re starting their own promotion and taking the titles with them.
To be clear, I do believe that AEW is real and that they aren’t signing new deals...but think they’ve agreed to this storyline as a way to launch their new promotion (kind of a reverse invasion storyline) over the next year. Why wouldn’t they want to continue to use that platform to promote their new venture...while also earning a regular paycheck before their promotion gets underway?
Koff openly talking about them leaving ahead of Final Battle seems fishy as well. Why would he admit his title matches are almost certain to turn out a certain way?
As I said, I could be way off (and it’s a crazy theory), but I think we could be in for a ROH vs. Elite/AEW angle dominating the creative in 2019.
They've already done it with Koff in the Bully Ray story.AnHonorableMention wrote: ↑Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:36 pmWHG wrote: ↑Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:44 pm I may be way off base on this, but it feels like the sudden Elite departures are a work of sorts. Cody announcing FB as his last ROH match weeks ago is what made me think of it.
By all accounts Cody and the Bucks a)Have a pretty solid relationship with ROH management; and b)View the industry much differently from a black and white “we’re not working here anymore so we can start our own thing” mentality.
My theory is that some combination of Cody, the Bucks and Paige win the titles at FB and run a reverse invasion angle where they’re starting their own promotion and taking the titles with them.
To be clear, I do believe that AEW is real and that they aren’t signing new deals...but think they’ve agreed to this storyline as a way to launch their new promotion (kind of a reverse invasion storyline) over the next year. Why wouldn’t they want to continue to use that platform to promote their new venture...while also earning a regular paycheck before their promotion gets underway?
Koff openly talking about them leaving ahead of Final Battle seems fishy as well. Why would he admit his title matches are almost certain to turn out a certain way?
As I said, I could be way off (and it’s a crazy theory), but I think we could be in for a ROH vs. Elite/AEW angle dominating the creative in 2019.
Certainly possible until a TV deal is in place. Nothing would shock me but the only way to present this with credibility to is make Koff or Delirious an on screen part of ROH management and I can't imagine anyone wants to see that or do that(Koff/Delirious not wanting the authority role)
They are leaving. For sure Daniels and Kaz.famicommander wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:51 pm I've pretty much accepted that the Elite are gone but I hope this isn't the end of SCU in ROH. Especially Daniels. That dude belongs here.
Minimal appearances are one thing but this type of angle would require a lot of work and verbal effort. It's a featured act, not some fat schlub who has no business being on TV anywhere in 2018.Big Red Machine wrote: ↑Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:03 pmThey've already done it with Koff in the Bully Ray story.AnHonorableMention wrote: ↑Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:36 pmWHG wrote: ↑Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:44 pm I may be way off base on this, but it feels like the sudden Elite departures are a work of sorts. Cody announcing FB as his last ROH match weeks ago is what made me think of it.
By all accounts Cody and the Bucks a)Have a pretty solid relationship with ROH management; and b)View the industry much differently from a black and white “we’re not working here anymore so we can start our own thing” mentality.
My theory is that some combination of Cody, the Bucks and Paige win the titles at FB and run a reverse invasion angle where they’re starting their own promotion and taking the titles with them.
To be clear, I do believe that AEW is real and that they aren’t signing new deals...but think they’ve agreed to this storyline as a way to launch their new promotion (kind of a reverse invasion storyline) over the next year. Why wouldn’t they want to continue to use that platform to promote their new venture...while also earning a regular paycheck before their promotion gets underway?
Koff openly talking about them leaving ahead of Final Battle seems fishy as well. Why would he admit his title matches are almost certain to turn out a certain way?
As I said, I could be way off (and it’s a crazy theory), but I think we could be in for a ROH vs. Elite/AEW angle dominating the creative in 2019.
Certainly possible until a TV deal is in place. Nothing would shock me but the only way to present this with credibility to is make Koff or Delirious an on screen part of ROH management and I can't imagine anyone wants to see that or do that(Koff/Delirious not wanting the authority role)