ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

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Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

Post by Wilson » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:13 am

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Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:23 am
They definitely gave him the time to shine, but they didn't really use him in a way that made his time feel particularly worthwhile to me as a fan. He elevated the match quality in the mid-card, but that was about it. They didn't try to make anything of him the way Gabe would do with someone when he got them on loan from Dragon Gate or NOAH for 6-8 months.
White’s excursion seemed to be an odd cocktail of genuine excitement from ROH and forced protection from behalf of New Japan. He was booked much stronger than a young talent tends to in the company, but could never claim momentum being in feuds that yielded no payoffs. It’s a strange creative tactic to book someone strong for its own sake, and that's, regrettably, what we saw.

A possible direction the company could have gone in was to push White very hard as the next breakout star, advertising ROH as his ground floor to success. Sure, eventually he goes back to New Japan, but his return matches in ROH would be received as big babyface homecomings. The company should generally treat excursion talent more generously, though White in particular should have gotten labored work put into him, as the whole wrestling community is waiting for his star to ascend. Instead, he had mostly three star matches for a year in a half-baked, mostly non-committal, undercard workrate faction.

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Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

Post by Mr. Mojo Risin » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:44 am

Wilson wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:13 am
Big Red Machine wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:23 am
They definitely gave him the time to shine, but they didn't really use him in a way that made his time feel particularly worthwhile to me as a fan. He elevated the match quality in the mid-card, but that was about it. They didn't try to make anything of him the way Gabe would do with someone when he got them on loan from Dragon Gate or NOAH for 6-8 months.
White’s excursion seemed to be an odd cocktail of genuine excitement from ROH and forced protection from behalf of New Japan. He was booked much stronger than a young talent tends to in the company, but could never claim momentum being in feuds that yielded no payoffs. It’s a strange creative tactic to book someone strong for its own sake, and that's, regrettably, what we saw.

A possible direction the company could have gone in was to push White very hard as the next breakout star, advertising ROH as his ground floor to success. Sure, eventually he goes back to New Japan, but his return matches in ROH would be received as big babyface homecomings. The company should generally treat excursion talent more generously, though White in particular should have gotten labored work put into him, as the whole wrestling community is waiting for his star to ascend. Instead, he had mostly three star matches for a year in a half-baked, mostly non-committal, undercard workrate faction.
Yeah man, it's almost too little too late now with the Punishment Martinez feud which I am enjoying for the most part.

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Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

Post by Wilson » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:55 am

Me too. Punishment/White is one my bright spots this year. Wonder what's next for Punishment--I think he has an obvious upside (barring his Todd McFarlane/KoЯn look, of course).

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Post by dhads7161 » Sun Jul 16, 2017 12:13 pm

Damn shame if he doesn't keep coming into ROH.

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Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

Post by Mr. Mojo Risin » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:40 pm

Wilson wrote:
Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:55 am
Me too. Punishment/White is one my bright spots this year. Wonder what's next for Punishment--I think he has an obvious upside (barring his Todd McFarlane/KoЯn look, of course).
Todd McFarlane? You and I know too much of the same shit. Fantastic artist, terrible writer.

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Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

Post by Wilson » Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:59 am

McFarlane reaches astounding levels of cheeseballness.

https://twitter.com/MinovskyArticle/sta ... 4522917888

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Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

Post by Mr. Mojo Risin » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:01 pm

Wilson wrote:
Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:59 am
McFarlane reaches astounding levels of cheeseballness.

https://twitter.com/MinovskyArticle/sta ... 4522917888
Wow. I didn't realize how spot on your use of cheeseballness was going to be until I looked at that.

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Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

Post by famicommander » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:13 pm

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WWE asking fans who they should sign and then ultimately use in a very disappointing fashion.

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Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

Post by AlexROH » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:33 pm

I'm not sure this is an official WWE survey, is from a website called WWE Fan Council.

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Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

Post by The Dragon Saga » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:37 pm

I laughed at Angelina Love being featured but not Davey Richards. Good lord.
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Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

Post by dhads7161 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:12 pm

Why was KUSHIDA listed twice?

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Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

Post by famicommander » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:13 pm

AlexROH wrote:
Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:33 pm
I'm not sure this is an official WWE survey, is from a website called WWE Fan Council.
If you click the privacy policy on their website it redirects here:
http://www.wwe.com/main-help/generalfaq/privacy-policy

So I assume this is in some way endorsed by WWE.

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Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

Post by King of Indy Style » Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:23 pm

I feel like that if that was a WWE endorsed list they'd at least spell Will Ospreay's name right. Probably just a fan page of WWE marks that want to see all the good talent get watered down, misused and made shitty.


Will Osprey. LMAO

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Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

Post by famicommander » Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:38 pm

King of Indy Style wrote:
Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:23 pm
I feel like that if that was a WWE endorsed list they'd at least spell Will Ospreay's name right. Probably just a fan page of WWE marks that want to see all the good talent get watered down, misused and made shitty.


Will Osprey. LMAO
https://www.facebook.com/wwe/posts/10151153807976443

WWE Fan Council is official.

So you were giving WWE too much credit.

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Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

Post by Mr. Mojo Risin » Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:08 pm

This list is fucking stupid. Nakamura works in the WWE because of his charisma. Takahashi, Okada, and maybe KUSHIDA​; wouldn't​ do jack shit in the WWE because they wouldn't know what to do with them. They fucked up how they handled Austin Aries, can you imagine how they would eviscerate Takahashi?

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Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

Post by famicommander » Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:18 pm

The Briscoes and Young Bucks would be even worse.

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Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

Post by maxx_powerz » Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:50 pm

If it's WWE affiliated, isn't this tampering? I guess not, but it feels weird.

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Post by TYFDK » Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:35 pm

"Scrull"

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Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

Post by King of Indy Style » Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:34 pm

Good lord, the more I look at this list, it looks like it was made by complete dolts that know nothing but the WWE. Angelia Love.....jesus.

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Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

Post by famicommander » Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:41 pm

But again, WWE Fan Council is an official WWE thing.

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