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Regarding War Machine, since they’ve been asked about a lot this week with Bobby Fish showing up in NXT and others like Kyle O’Reilly and Adam Cole expected to follow, they are free agents right now. They were on the PPV in the tag title match, although they weren’t the ones who lost the fall. But they lost to the Motor City Machine Guns in their only match at the TV tapings. They are still working New Japan at this point. Regarding their future, the way it’s been described to me is that they are in the drivers’ seat right now

Bobby Fish was the first of the recent ROH guys to start here, at the 6/23 NXT tapings. At the beginning of the year, Fish, Kyle O’Reilly, Donovan Dijak were all going to start here and it was pretty much expected that Adam Cole would follow when his contract expired. Due to legal threats, where the ones getting screwed unfortunately was the talent, WWE backed off on everyone for months. O’Reilly, who had already given notice to ROH and New Japan ended up screwed the most. Fish kept wrestling with ROH, signed a short-term deal, and when that ran out, continued to work there, but was obviously in a position where they weren’t going to push him past a certain level. What’s notable is Fish debuted on NXT and the first thing they did with him was have him put over Aleister Black

The Dragon Saga wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:33 am I don't see much coming of Fish in his NXT run. At best they'll realize he's extremely charismatic and use him in a speaking role, as a manager or an announcer or something, but his age is a big issue and unlike Daniels, Fish shows his age. Worst case scenario is that this NXT run doesn't go to plan and he's back out on the indies, in which case ROH will need to decide whether to use him or not.

The Dragon Saga wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:33 am I don't see much coming of Fish in his NXT run. At best they'll realize he's extremely charismatic and use him in a speaking role, as a manager or an announcer or something, but his age is a big issue and unlike Daniels, Fish shows his age. Worst case scenario is that this NXT run doesn't go to plan and he's back out on the indies, in which case ROH will need to decide whether to use him or not.

Zhuge1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:44 am

The Dragon Saga wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:33 am I don't see much coming of Fish in his NXT run. At best they'll realize he's extremely charismatic and use him in a speaking role, as a manager or an announcer or something, but his age is a big issue and unlike Daniels, Fish shows his age. Worst case scenario is that this NXT run doesn't go to plan and he's back out on the indies, in which case ROH will need to decide whether to use him or not.

Bobby is like 10 years younger than Daniels. How does he show his age ?

The Dragon Saga wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:25 pm When I look at Bobby and you tell me he's 37, I believe it. He looks his age if not somewhat older. I know he keeps fit and his athletic and does Crossfit, etc, which is all cool and dandy, but his physique has been gradually dropping off to me and it has been visible for the last year or so in ROH.

When you tell me Daniels is 47, I don't believe it, because he doesn't look it. He looks like he's not a day over 40. Daniels has aged magnificently while I don't think Bobby will. It does help however that Bobby started late, hasn't taken half the amount of bumps most with his experience would have and that working exclusively for ROH he hasn't had a full-time schedule over the last couple years. He'll hold up, but, I don't know. I just hope it goes well for him and that he doesn't end up back on the indies after making a few dollars working NXT and that ROH would be in a position to bring him back, if they wanted to.

cgstong wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:17 pm Also, can I just add that if I could do what Fish or Daniels do at their respective ages... I've been blessed.

The Dragon Saga wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:25 pm When I look at Bobby and you tell me he's 37, I believe it. He looks his age if not somewhat older. I know he keeps fit and his athletic and does Crossfit, etc, which is all cool and dandy, but his physique has been gradually dropping off to me and it has been visible for the last year or so in ROH.

When you tell me Daniels is 47, I don't believe it, because he doesn't look it. He looks like he's not a day over 40. Daniels has aged magnificently while I don't think Bobby will. It does help however that Bobby started late, hasn't taken half the amount of bumps most with his experience would have and that working exclusively for ROH he hasn't had a full-time schedule over the last couple years. He'll hold up, but, I don't know. I just hope it goes well for him and that he doesn't end up back on the indies after making a few dollars working NXT and that ROH would be in a position to bring him back, if they wanted to.

Buzz Sawyer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:01 am

cgstong wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:17 pm Also, can I just add that if I could do what Fish or Daniels do at their respective ages... I've been blessed.

When I was 37, I could do what Fish does. Hell, at age 43 I could do the same things. At age 47, I can't anymore. Fish keeps himself in great shape and even keeps up with the popular hairstyles of today.

Mr. Mojo Risin wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:00 pm

Buzz Sawyer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:01 am

cgstong wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:17 pm Also, can I just add that if I could do what Fish or Daniels do at their respective ages... I've been blessed.

When I was 37, I could do what Fish does. Hell, at age 43 I could do the same things. At age 47, I can't anymore. Fish keeps himself in great shape and even keeps up with the popular hairstyles of today.

I thought this was the perfect summation for quite possibly the weirdest fucking topic this forum has seen in some time. And it was funny too.

Former CZW champion and ROH star Lio Rush announced during tonight's CZW event that he would make a final appearance for Combat Zone Wrestling on 8/5 against Joey Janella in Voorhees, NJ. The word going around backstage at CZW is that Rush was in Orlando earlier this week at the WWE Performance Center and has been offered an NXT deal.

Rush, 22, was originally trained at the MCW school in Baltimore (his first tag team partner was current NXT talent "Velveteen Dream" Patrick Clark) and was under contract to ROH from 2015-2017 before exiting the promotion.

Wilson wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:57 am

Mr. Mojo Risin wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:00 pm

Buzz Sawyer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:01 am

When I was 37, I could do what Fish does. Hell, at age 43 I could do the same things. At age 47, I can't anymore. Fish keeps himself in great shape and even keeps up with the popular hairstyles of today.

I thought this was the perfect summation for quite possibly the weirdest fucking topic this forum has seen in some time. And it was funny too.

Haha, right, right. Now we just have to wait for the ROHbots to appear from the woodwork to say that their ages are a work.

monster mafia wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:44 am good luck to lio rush and his 3-5 minutes matches on 205 live!

King of Indy Style wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:27 pm I'm a Christopher Daniels birther. I need to see his birth certificate before I believe he's in his mid-40's. Otherwise I believe he is 25.

Mr. Mojo Risin wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:05 pm I am not one to shit on a guy trying to fulfill his dream job like Lio Rush is, but this is gonna be a fucking disaster. Vince will eat vomit for the IRS before Lio Rush even smells Braun Strowman's jock strap.

Wilson wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:24 am

King of Indy Style wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:27 pm I'm a Christopher Daniels birther. I need to see his birth certificate before I believe he's in his mid-40's. Otherwise I believe he is 25.

Too soon, KOIS.

Mr. Mojo Risin wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:05 pm I am not one to shit on a guy trying to fulfill his dream job like Lio Rush is, but this is gonna be a fucking disaster. Vince will eat vomit for the IRS before Lio Rush even smells Braun Strowman's jock strap.

It’s worth keeping in mind that Rush has a young child. Security to him is probably more important than the state of 205 or his place in NXT. He’s still young enough that if he did flounder for years in a system that wouldn’t utilize him, he could still easily carve out a secondary phase of his career anywhere else, still with great mileage.