are you racist or just a dumb person?SweetDaddy wrote:Mod Edit: Post deleted.
just a question.
are you racist or just a dumb person?SweetDaddy wrote:Mod Edit: Post deleted.
Shit man, having heat with Vince Russo is like having heat with wife for not taking the garbage out. Its background noise.supersonic wrote:
DXvsNWO1994 wrote:So is it fair to say that this Keith Lee situation was caused by a combination of FloSlam Money & ROH's (apparently) more restrictive contracts?
Honestly not sure what you do with Shane Taylor as a singles guy.
Those seem to be two of many possible reasons. Joining WWN is becoming more and more the abbreviated passage to the WWE. I think that always has to be the primary incentive.DXvsNWO1994 wrote:So is it fair to say that this Keith Lee situation was caused by a combination of FloSlam Money & ROH's (apparently) more restrictive contracts?
Honestly not sure what you do with Shane Taylor as a singles guy.
FloSlam as part of FloSports is backed by 10s of millions of dollars. So Sinclair could not just easily buy them. They paid WWN 3.5 million dollars. They have a lot of disposable money at the moment. FloSlam is willing to spend more up front in this early phase, but it isn't like ROH wasn't in on the action here. Lee had a big breakout year and right now, the WWN->WWE path (although not hard and fast) may have been more attractive if the money was the same.Memphis Mark wrote: I really don't think FLoSlam has more money to pay talent than Sinclair. In we all know that Sinclair could easily buy Floslam out tomorrow. However in this case ,FloSlam is willing to spend more money than SBGI .
Maybe this Lee fiasco may prompt Joe Koff to look into how his management team is handling these types of personnel issues.
This is a somewhat funny quote when you think about him already having a heavy influence on the committee when he got the tag belts, and now he's in line for the main title.Mr. Mojo Risin wrote:This. Make Daniels the booker though. Guy has constantly put his ego aside his entire career. Knows how to tweak his own character without drastic changes. Never heard anyone say a bad thing about him. At this point ROH needs a guy like that in the back.
Jay Lethal's Hair wrote:FloSlam as part of FloSports is backed by 10s of millions of dollars. So Sinclair could not just easily buy them. They paid WWN 3.5 million dollars. They have a lot of disposable money at the moment. FloSlam is willing to spend more up front in this early phase, but it isn't like ROH wasn't in on the action here. Lee had a big breakout year and right now, the WWN->WWE path (although not hard and fast) may have been more attractive if the money was the same.Memphis Mark wrote: I really don't think FLoSlam has more money to pay talent than Sinclair. In we all know that Sinclair could easily buy Floslam out tomorrow. However in this case ,FloSlam is willing to spend more money than SBGI .
Maybe this Lee fiasco may prompt Joe Koff to look into how his management team is handling these types of personnel issues.
Definitely agree with your last point. This marketplace is evolving (no pun intended), this is good example and will be interesting to see play out.
Yeah I can see your point, but the dude is at the end of his career. Additionally, the last tag title run was transitional to set up Ladder War 6 and get the tag titles on the Bucks. If Daniels gets the world title as I suspect, it again will be nothing more than a transitional run as well.Jay Lethal's Hair wrote:This is a somewhat funny quote when you think about him already having a heavy influence on the committee when he got the tag belts, and now he's in line for the main title.Mr. Mojo Risin wrote:This. Make Daniels the booker though. Guy has constantly put his ego aside his entire career. Knows how to tweak his own character without drastic changes. Never heard anyone say a bad thing about him. At this point ROH needs a guy like that in the back.
You're right there - they have the cash on hand, no doubt. My angle was they're a very conservative company so I doubt they would throw 50 million away with little shot at a return on investment. With other venture capitalists already investing in the FloSports model, it would be very expensive and unlikely they'd just scoop it up to help eliminate competition for their wrestling company.Memphis Mark wrote:Jay Lethal's Hair wrote:FloSlam as part of FloSports is backed by 10s of millions of dollars. So Sinclair could not just easily buy them. They paid WWN 3.5 million dollars. They have a lot of disposable money at the moment. FloSlam is willing to spend more up front in this early phase, but it isn't like ROH wasn't in on the action here. Lee had a big breakout year and right now, the WWN->WWE path (although not hard and fast) may have been more attractive if the money was the same.Memphis Mark wrote: I really don't think FLoSlam has more money to pay talent than Sinclair. In we all know that Sinclair could easily buy Floslam out tomorrow. However in this case ,FloSlam is willing to spend more money than SBGI .
Maybe this Lee fiasco may prompt Joe Koff to look into how his management team is handling these types of personnel issues.
Definitely agree with your last point. This marketplace is evolving (no pun intended), this is good example and will be interesting to see play out.
The market cap on SBGI stock is around $ 3 billion , they keep 10 millions around in retained earnings and all of their media assets are worth billions.. If they paid $ 350 million for the Tennis Channel , they can buy FloSlam/ WWN without too much trouble.
Ugh, I'm so damn tired of hearing this for every big man imaginable nowadays. You know when something stops being impressive ? When "Oh, but X can do FLIPZ and shit" is applicable to almost anyone in the wrestling business.DXvsNWO1994 wrote:I would think that Keith Lee & Donovan Dijak are near the top of the list (two big guys who are mobile and fly around like cruiserweights at times).
Put Taylor with Colt Cabana as his henchman. He can learn to work a bit in tag matches with Cabana and do singles squashes as a monster heel. Hell, put Taylor with Sullivan & Martinez and have them both learn a bit.DXvsNWO1994 wrote:So is it fair to say that this Keith Lee situation was caused by a combination of FloSlam Money & ROH's (apparently) more restrictive contracts?
Honestly not sure what you do with Shane Taylor as a singles guy.
Damn you're right, and he's pretty good!Thelone wrote:*cough* Beer City Bruiser *cough*