Official Global Wars/War Of The Worlds 2016 Super Thread

[Burnside]

You can´t book the Bullet Club as faces because it makes no sense, the crowd will cheer them of course but you should book them like heels anyway.

Why?!?

I feel like this is such a ridiculous problem in wrestling today. Roman Reigns is despised but he MUST BE A BABYFACE. The Bullet Club are beloved and sell more merch than anybody in the company but they MUST BE HEELS. Must they?

[187_Joeism]

You book them like faces and turn all the roster as heels then? Makes no sense.

[Burnside]

You book them like faces and turn all the roster as heels then? Makes no sense.

No! What? What are you talking about?

Assume they didn't book this stupid angle. Your top heels are The House of Truth/Los Ingobernables alliance. The heels act like heels. Bullet Club are their babyface challengers whom everybody loves. Why is that not going to work?

Why is it a better idea to have crowds cheering Cole and the Bucks as they beat up all the loser babyfaces like Colt Cabana and the Machine Guns and toothless heels like Jay Lethal?

[ROHFan25]

If you knew that this was the angle that you were going to run with...the booker could have just booked a ton of guys as scumbagish heels and had the Bullet Club come in to change the landscape of ROH/save the company/whatever you want them to do. Instead, you book the Bullet Club as heels and ROH as a face when people love the Bullet Club and are going to boo the ROH guys, once again making ROH look like shit. Ass backwards booking at it's finest.


But again, the theme of ROH = Delirious is an atrocious booker and needs to be let go. He is the dirt worst.

[187_Joeism]

I agree with that, they could have booked a much better angle than this one, i just not have a problem with Bullet Club being cheered. I repeat you don´t have hated heels anymore in wrestling, is not something with ROH only.

[ROHFan25]

But that shouldn't be an excuse for ROH or any other wrestling company. Book your heels to be heels and they'll be heels. Bullet Club aren't really booked like heels. They're like the NWO, they're "cool". Lethal is a heel.


One of the major problems with ROH is that they have no built up faces. If you had a beloved face who was built up to win the belt and then a heel fucked him out of that belt, heel would get major heat, face would get major sympathy. It's very simple.

[187_Joeism]

But that shouldn't be an excuse for ROH or any other wrestling company. Book your heels to be heels and they'll be heels. Bullet Club aren't really booked like heels. They're like the NWO, they're "cool". Lethal is a heel.


One of the major problems with ROH is that they have no built up faces. If you had a beloved face who was built up to win the belt and then a heel fucked him out of that belt, heel would get major heat, face would get major sympathy. It's very simple.

If you do that people would blame the booker for booking that instead of the wrestler

[Thelone]

You book them like faces and turn all the roster as heels then? Makes no sense.

It doesn't need to be an invasion storyline. You could have done BC (faces) vs. HoT (heels) and give the belt to Cole, then move on to something like BC vs. New Kingdom.

[187_Joeism]

You book them like faces and turn all the roster as heels then? Makes no sense.

It doesn't need to be an invasion storyline. You could have done BC (faces) vs. HoT (heels) and give the belt to Cole, then move on to something like BC vs. New Kingdom.

They should give Kyle the belt before Cole and New Kingdom should be as far away as possible to the Main Event

[Burnside]

You book them like faces and turn all the roster as heels then? Makes no sense.

It doesn't need to be an invasion storyline. You could have done BC (faces) vs. HoT (heels) and give the belt to Cole, then move on to something like BC vs. New Kingdom.

They should give Kyle the belt before Cole and New Kingdom should be as far away as possible to the Main Event

You're about the last person left who thinks Kyle has any credibility remaining. He's not getting the belt this year.

[KennyNO]

The Bullet Club themselves don't help matters much. They are very interactive with the fans in a positive way. They don't really put forth an effort to do the little things heels would do.

[Burnside]

The Bullet Club themselves don't help matters much. They are very interactive with the fans in a positive way. They don't really put forth an effort to do the little things heels would do.

We're really talking about the Bucks here. Cole will work pretty hard to actually be a heel, and the other guys don't really matter that much.

The Bucks are just not willing to be heels, or they don't know how. Since that's the case, they shouldn't be heels.

[187_Joeism]

Kyle beat Lethal clean several times, Lethal never beat him clean, beat Cole but has no credibility.

Cole lose to Lethal & Kyle and has credibility how?

I love Cole like i said before but no way he should take the title from Lethal.

[Burnside]

One of the major problems with ROH is that they have no built up faces. If you had a beloved face who was built up to win the belt and then a heel fucked him out of that belt, heel would get major heat, face would get major sympathy. It's very simple.

You don't even have to do this. This is all you really need to be a babyface:

1. The babyface should be fighting the odds. The faces should not outnumber the heels. The authority figure should not favor the babyfaces and give them unfair advantages or fight their battles for them. The babyfaces should earn everything they get.

2. The babyface should use brains to outsmart the heels. The heels should not continually outsmart the faces at every turn. That just makes the faces idiots.

3. The babyfaces should not whine and complain like jilted lovers or disappointed children when things don't go their way.

4. The babyfaces should do flashy exciting stuff in the ring. The heels in the ring should generally not be flashier and more exciting than the babyfaces they're wrestling. If they are, they will soon not be heels.

It doesn't sound that hard, but apparently it's completely fucking impossible.

[Burnside]

Kyle beat Lethal clean several times, Lethal never beat him clean, beat Cole but has no credibility.

Cole lose to Lethal & Kyle and has credibility how?

I love Cole like i said before but no way he should take the title from Lethal.

Cole is super over and gets a huge reaction, Kyle is not and gets very little reaction. When they did Lethal vs Cole vs O'Reilly at the last PPV, the biggest cheers were for heel Cole. The second biggest cheers were for heel Lethal. Babyface O'Reilly begging for crowd response was sad. Nobody believes in him. The reason are numbers 1, 2, and 3 in my post above.

[187_Joeism]

So is not that Kyle has no credibility, he is not as over as Cole, something i agree with. Still prefer Kyle winning the title. Kyle can get over by having great matches with clean finishes.

[Burnside]

So is not that Kyle has no credibility, he is not as over as Cole, .

In wrestling, this is the same thing.

[187_Joeism]

Babyface Cole is a waste of Cole because he can´t do the things that make him over with the crowd, heel Cole is great but we already have Lethal doing that, i prefer having a babyface champion next.

[Burnside]

Babyface Cole is a waste of Cole because he can´t do the things that make him over with the crowd, .

Examples?

[187_Joeism]

Babyface Cole is a waste of Cole because he can´t do the things that make him over with the crowd, .

Examples?

He can´t be cocky/cool or whatever you wanna call it + i never see a good babyface promo of him. You are having a hard time finding great heels in this day and age, wasting one of your best as a babyface is a wrong decision.