ALL PURPOSE NEW TALENT/SPECIAL ATTRACTION THREAD

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I never said Moose was on the same level as The Rock, but it sure looks like he didn't need FOUR DIFFERENT MANAGERS during his ROH run either.

As for "but that was two years ago", they barely let him talk during his run so even if he actually sucked at promos before, ROH didn't help him improve in any way.
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monster mafia wrote:
Where has this guy been for 2 years?
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We’re told that things have gotten a little uncomfortable in the TNA & ROH relationship, which at this point is really only the Hardys vs. Young Bucks match in Lakeland, since there are lingering past issues involving the Jarrett led version of the company and ROH from the past
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It probably doesn't help that NOAH and NJPW aren't on good terms anymore.
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famicommander wrote:It probably doesn't help that NOAH and NJPW aren't on good terms anymore.
And doesn't TNA work with AAA as well?
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Big Red Machine wrote:
famicommander wrote:It probably doesn't help that NOAH and NJPW aren't on good terms anymore.
And doesn't TNA work with AAA as well?
TNA is going to proooooooooobably set up an arrangement with Konnan's CRASH promotion, considering Jarrett's working their next main event and the long-standing relationship between Jarrett and Konnan.
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SandsShifter wrote:
Big Red Machine wrote:
famicommander wrote:It probably doesn't help that NOAH and NJPW aren't on good terms anymore.
And doesn't TNA work with AAA as well?
TNA is going to proooooooooobably set up an arrangement with Konnan's CRASH promotion, considering Jarrett's working their next main event and the long-standing relationship between Jarrett and Konnan.
So no more TNA and AAA then probably.
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Something interesting that was brought up on the most recent VOW Flagship Podcast is that Jeff Jarrett (apparently) isn't a big fan of The Hardy's current gimmick, so they were speculating that TNA could potentially let The Hardys go. They brought up that they could be a great fit for ROH (their argument was basically that The Hardys are more of a live event draw than a TV ratings draw, and TNA is pretty much strictly a TV promotion that runs no live events). So if that does come to pass, and you're ROH, do you try to bring in The Hardys?
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SandsShifter wrote:
Big Red Machine wrote: And doesn't TNA work with AAA as well?
TNA is going to proooooooooobably set up an arrangement with Konnan's CRASH promotion, considering Jarrett's working their next main event and the long-standing relationship between Jarrett and Konnan.
So no more TNA and AAA then probably.
Yeah essentially Konnan had a falling out with AAA, and that's led to guys like Fenix & Pentagon Jr. to leave AAA, because (from what I understand) the people currently in charge of AAA are more interested in pushing the older stars (despite their popularity, people don't realize that Fenix & Pentagon Jr. weren't really pushed that much in AAA). What's going to be interesting is that I'm not sure how the relationship between TNA & CRASH would work, as far as guys from CRASH working TNA is concerned, since CRASH uses a lot of guys who are still under contract to Lucha Underground (let's not forget the whole Hernandez fiasco from two years ago).
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DXvsNWO1994 wrote:Something interesting that was brought up on the most recent VOW Flagship Podcast is that Jeff Jarrett (apparently) isn't a big fan of The Hardy's current gimmick, so they were speculating that TNA could potentially let The Hardys go. They brought up that they could be a great fit for ROH (their argument was basically that The Hardys are more of a live event draw than a TV ratings draw, and TNA is pretty much strictly a TV promotion that runs no live events). So if that does come to pass, and you're ROH, do you try to bring in The Hardys?
I don't think Jarrett's dumb enough to chase his hottest act out of the territory as soon as he gets back, but we'll see.

We don't really know how much of a ratings draw the Hardys are, because they've been present since the promotion arrived on Pop. I'd argue that they're actually drawing, because the Final Deletion was the highest rated episode on Pop so far.

People used to say that AJ Styles wasn't a real draw, but at the peak of his exposure in TNA Impact was averaging over 2 million domestic viewers per week. And as soon as he left they plummeted into the low millions, and today sit anywhere between 280,000 and 400,000 depending on the week.

If I'm ROH and I have a shot to sign the Hardys, you're damn right I do it. The Broken Hardys are one of the most fun and creative things I've seen in wrestling in quite some time, and physically Matt's in much better shape than he was for his earlier ROH runs.
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famicommander wrote:
DXvsNWO1994 wrote:Something interesting that was brought up on the most recent VOW Flagship Podcast is that Jeff Jarrett (apparently) isn't a big fan of The Hardy's current gimmick, so they were speculating that TNA could potentially let The Hardys go. They brought up that they could be a great fit for ROH (their argument was basically that The Hardys are more of a live event draw than a TV ratings draw, and TNA is pretty much strictly a TV promotion that runs no live events). So if that does come to pass, and you're ROH, do you try to bring in The Hardys?
I don't think Jarrett's dumb enough to chase his hottest act out of the territory as soon as he gets back, but we'll see.

We don't really know how much of a ratings draw the Hardys are, because they've been present since the promotion arrived on Pop. I'd argue that they're actually drawing, because the Final Deletion was the highest rated episode on Pop so far.

People used to say that AJ Styles wasn't a real draw, but at the peak of his exposure in TNA Impact was averaging over 2 million domestic viewers per week. And as soon as he left they plummeted into the low millions, and today sit anywhere between 280,000 and 400,000 depending on the week.

If I'm ROH and I have a shot to sign the Hardys, you're damn right I do it. The Broken Hardys are one of the most fun and creative things I've seen in wrestling in quite some time, and physically Matt's in much better shape than he was for his earlier ROH runs.
Excellent post. You are spot on with everything here famicommander with the exception of one thing. In my opinion, Jarrett IS dumb enough to chase the Hardy's out of the promotion. That's valuable TV time to get Karen back in front of the camera. I'm sure he is waiting patiently on Jack Swagger's release to bring him out on Impact with Dutch Mantel and hype it as "the new main event face on the scene".
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Ugh. Swagger blows. Just go to TNA so I don't have to see him.
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King of Indy Style wrote:Ugh. Swagger blows. Just go to TNA so I don't have to see him.
For your sake, I hope Swagger doesn't show up in PWG.
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Mr. Mojo Risin wrote:
King of Indy Style wrote:Ugh. Swagger blows. Just go to TNA so I don't have to see him.
For your sake, I hope Swagger doesn't show up in PWG.

They learned their lesson in bringing in shitty ex-WWE guys when Brian Myers stunk the place out
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Lol. Totally forgot about that one. I think we're safe and Swagger will reunite with Zeb in TNA.
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Just put them vs LIJ (naito,sanada,evil) in one of the wotw tour shows...yes,im a dreamer

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I'd actually love to see Swagger in the G1.
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I bet he's headed for TNA.
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Mr. Mojo Risin wrote:
King of Indy Style wrote:Ugh. Swagger blows. Just go to TNA so I don't have to see him.
For your sake, I hope Swagger doesn't show up in PWG.
Mojo, YOU will be in PWG before Swagger.
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Brada wrote:
Mr. Mojo Risin wrote:
King of Indy Style wrote:Ugh. Swagger blows. Just go to TNA so I don't have to see him.
For your sake, I hope Swagger doesn't show up in PWG.
Mojo, YOU will be in PWG before Swagger.
Why do people hate Swagger so much?
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