Lethal vs. Cabana CANNOT happen in CHI for the title

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Lethal vs. Cabana CANNOT happen in CHI for the title

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Just a reminder to Delirious and I'm sure Jay Lethal will love to see this:

Per Colt Cabana's defeat to Austin Aries at Reverse the Curse, he is NEVER allowed an ROH Title Match in Chicago again. Period.
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How much do you want to bet that Lethal vs. Cabana happens at Global Wars and they completely ignore the fact that this happened?
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Tweeted it to all relevant parties.
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Not only that, in my opinion that would also be an extremely lackluster title match for a TV PPV. Lethal vs Tanahashi would be ten times better.
So hopefully ROH remembers the stipulation from 2009 and books Lethal vs Cabana at one of the other ROH/NJPW Dream shows.
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supersonic wrote:Just a reminder to Delirious and I'm sure Jay Lethal will love to see this:

Per Colt Cabana's defeat to Austin Aries at Reverse the Curse, he is NEVER allowed an ROH Title Match in Chicago again. Period.
You act as if they care about long term continuity from pre-SBG era. Remember this is a company that allows claims to be made on their TV show that such as "and here comes Ring of Honor founder Cary Silkin."

From a current booking perspective the Chicago Ridge show is the best place to do it. Cabana and by extension the match itself will be way more over there than anywhere else. The crowd will buy into Cabana's chance at winning so much more than Toronto, NY, or Dearborn would. And that can make a huge difference in match quality.
The ROH Championship doesn't need to main event on this show either if you've got some dream match main event.

Yes, Lethal vs Tanahashi would be the best match. But as we all know we generally don't get the best matches possible on these shows, especially when titles are involved. It's why we will have Okada teaming with Moose or something. And if the the title match isn't going to be interpromotional, Cabana is a better option than a random ROH challenger. And you also don't want to waste O'Reilly/Lethal or something like that here because it will get overshadowed by NJPW.
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Northwoods_Nightmare wrote:
supersonic wrote:Just a reminder to Delirious and I'm sure Jay Lethal will love to see this:

Per Colt Cabana's defeat to Austin Aries at Reverse the Curse, he is NEVER allowed an ROH Title Match in Chicago again. Period.
You act as if they care about long term continuity from pre-SBG era. Remember this is a company that allows claims to be made on their TV show that such as "and here comes Ring of Honor founder Cary Silkin."

From a current booking perspective the Chicago Ridge show is the best place to do it. Cabana and by extension the match itself will be way more over there than anywhere else. The crowd will buy into Cabana's chance at winning so much more than Toronto, NY, or Dearborn would. And that can make a huge difference in match quality.
The ROH Championship doesn't need to main event on this show either if you've got some dream match main event.

Yes, Lethal vs Tanahashi would be the best match. But as we all know we generally don't get the best matches possible on these shows, especially when titles are involved. It's why we will have Okada teaming with Moose or something. And if the the title match isn't going to be interpromotional, Cabana is a better option than a random ROH challenger. And you also don't want to waste O'Reilly/Lethal or something like that here because it will get overshadowed by NJPW.
What do you want to bet that the ROH higher ups forgot about that stupid stipulation and now are figuring out whether to completely ignore it or have some lame stipulation where Cabana can get his title shot in Chicago if he beats Jay Diesel.
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Even worse, since Delirious likes bringing in masked alter egos out of the mothballs, Colt Cabana cannot challenge for the title in Chicago, but Mat Classic can!
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McGuinness speaking for Delirious with "Cornette was a dipshit implementing that stipulation" to bury Pearce would suffice as an explanation.
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Northwoods_Nightmare wrote:
supersonic wrote:Just a reminder to Delirious and I'm sure Jay Lethal will love to see this:

Per Colt Cabana's defeat to Austin Aries at Reverse the Curse, he is NEVER allowed an ROH Title Match in Chicago again. Period.
You act as if they care about long term continuity from pre-SBG era. Remember this is a company that allows claims to be made on their TV show that such as "and here comes Ring of Honor founder Cary Silkin."

From a current booking perspective the Chicago Ridge show is the best place to do it. Cabana and by extension the match itself will be way more over there than anywhere else. The crowd will buy into Cabana's chance at winning so much more than Toronto, NY, or Dearborn would. And that can make a huge difference in match quality.
The ROH Championship doesn't need to main event on this show either if you've got some dream match main event.

Yes, Lethal vs Tanahashi would be the best match. But as we all know we generally don't get the best matches possible on these shows, especially when titles are involved. It's why we will have Okada teaming with Moose or something. And if the the title match isn't going to be interpromotional, Cabana is a better option than a random ROH challenger. And you also don't want to waste O'Reilly/Lethal or something like that here because it will get overshadowed by NJPW.
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supersonic wrote:Just a reminder to Delirious and I'm sure Jay Lethal will love to see this:

Per Colt Cabana's defeat to Austin Aries at Reverse the Curse, he is NEVER allowed an ROH Title Match in Chicago again. Period.
Nice troll to word it that way.

I'm fine either way. Lethal will bring it up, and/or Nigel will have a way to void it.
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Could've been in Cabana's last contract. But since he has a new one...
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Sure it will get mentioned, it should. Nigel announces that Colt will get his title shot at Global Wars. Lethal comes out reminds him of the past. Cabana doesn't get the World title shot there. Give him the TV title shot in Chicago Ridge. Have him win the TV strap off Ishii and put him in matches he can win on the WOTW tour probably against KUSHIDA, Naito, Elgin (in Toronto for the TV strap).
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dhads7161 wrote:Sure it will get mentioned, it should. Nigel announces that Colt will get his title shot at Global Wars. Lethal comes out reminds him of the past. Cabana doesn't get the World title shot there. Give him the TV title shot in Chicago Ridge. Have him win the TV strap off Ishii and put him in matches he can win on the WOTW tour probably against KUSHIDA, Naito, Elgin (in Toronto for the TV strap).
They're not going to push him that hard. He'll get his shot at Lethal soon, lose, and then either leave or get shuffled down the card.
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Burnside wrote:
dhads7161 wrote:Sure it will get mentioned, it should. Nigel announces that Colt will get his title shot at Global Wars. Lethal comes out reminds him of the past. Cabana doesn't get the World title shot there. Give him the TV title shot in Chicago Ridge. Have him win the TV strap off Ishii and put him in matches he can win on the WOTW tour probably against KUSHIDA, Naito, Elgin (in Toronto for the TV strap).
They're not going to push him that hard. He'll get his shot at Lethal soon, lose, and then either leave or get shuffled down the card.
No offense to Cabana, but that's exactly what he should. He's simply not in his prime anymore to carry one of the two big belts.
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Oh, I agree. He may do more than one match with Lethal like Hero did with Cole in 2014, but winning the TV title and beating a series of name guys isn't happening (and shouldn't).
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Oh, so you want the same legal team that got Steen back in ROH after he was, you know, banned from being back in ROH, back to help Cabana? I mean if it worked for Steen...
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I think lifting the ban with the explanation of "it's a whole new roster, new ownership, and new leadership, so we are lifting the ban on Colt Cabana" is the easiest and most logical explanation. Bans and suspensions get lifted in other sports too.
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However they choose to address it is fine by me. If anyone gets angry over them turning over a years-old stipulation put in place by another booking team and different ownership, just lighten the hell up.
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They are not going to mention this because i don´t think they care and only a few fans will remember/care about the stipulation.
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The NFL wouldn't just let somebody compete again because probably nobody would remember he was suspended. Neither should ROH. They should at least give an explanation as to why he can have a title match there again, if they're going to give him one
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