I think it's time for Delirious to step down as booker

[187_Joeism]

I don´t think it was maid for a satisfying outcome result, that will come when O´Reilly gets his revenge on Cole. This was made to set that up.

[Marketh.]

Satisfying and conclusive aren't necessarily the same thing.

Seth Rollins cashing in MITB at Wrestlemania was a fuck-finish and inconclusive, but it sure was one of the most satisfying things WWE has done this year.

Cole turning on O'Reilly wasn't satisfying because it came after a ton of interference in an already-underwhelming match and re-established a faction of guys that can't gather heat unless you count Cole's rubbing off on them. I don't know if you've noticed, but there's been a lot less buzz around O'Reilly in the time since this match - the exact opposite effect that a twist ending should have.

[Burnside]

Who are we supposed to believe, in kayfabe terms, wrote that article "explaining" this angle to us? Someone who lives inside Adam Cole's brain and reports out on his thoughts?

[187_Joeism]

Satisfying and conclusive aren't necessarily the same thing.

Seth Rollins cashing in MITB at Wrestlemania was a fuck-finish and inconclusive, but it sure was one of the most satisfying things WWE has done this year.

Cole turning on O'Reilly wasn't satisfying because it came after a ton of interference in an already-underwhelming match and re-established a faction of guys that can't gather heat unless you count Cole's rubbing off on them. I don't know if you've noticed, but there's been a lot less buzz around O'Reilly in the time since this match - the exact opposite effect that a twist ending should have.

I feel the same buzz for Kyle post and pre match to be honest. I will wait until the TV tapings from SA kick off though.

[jordidebaas]

I don't know if you've noticed, but there's been a lot less buzz around O'Reilly in the time since this match - the exact opposite effect that a twist ending should have.

Yeah, but that's mainly due to the fact that this happened like three weeks ago and there still hasn't been any follow-up on it.

[TYFDK]

Who are we supposed to believe, in kayfabe terms, wrote that article "explaining" this angle to us? Someone who lives inside Adam Cole's brain and reports out on his thoughts?

By Kevin Kelly

[trufreedom]

So now this angle requires us to believe that Kevin Kelly is a psychic, and by that madness alone could train a team of mutants to fight crime.

[Wilson]

Who are we supposed to believe, in kayfabe terms, wrote that article "explaining" this angle to us? Someone who lives inside Adam Cole's brain and reports out on his thoughts?

By Kevin Kelly

[quote=""Kevin Kelly" via ROHwrestling.com"]Or so it appeared.[/quote]
While the angle itself is no good, I do like the idea of Kyle having at least one more big singles feud before again entering in contention for the World Title. Lethal/Styles and Cole/O'Reilly are two great co-main events for Final Battle.

[Northwoods_Nightmare]

Did Kelly write that? Man, that was hard to get through. Words were out of order or just missing, bad punctuation, etc. I mean, articles butchering the English language on the website is nothing out of the ordinary but it gets me every time.

While the angle itself is no good, I do like the idea of Kyle having at least one more big singles feud before again entering in contention for the World Title. Lethal/Styles and Cole/O'Reilly are two great co-main events for Final Battle.

I think at this point you need to hold off on the Cole/O'Reilly singles match until one of them has the title, preferably Cole so that O'Reilly can get his just revenge. Keep the feud going, but always keep Cole just barely out of Kyle's reach until the big payoff for the gold.

I agree on O'Reilly's buzz being lost. I put that on the fact that it was built up that he could get the best of Lethal and was viewed by most in that "next world champ" spot. But now with Styles finally getting a shot and the Cole developments it makes more sense that one of them will be the next World Champ so O'Reilly loses that special aura.

[Thelone]

I don't know if you've noticed, but there's been a lot less buzz around O'Reilly in the time since this match - the exact opposite effect that a twist ending should have.

To be brutally honest, I've never felt that O'Reilly challenging for the world title had a lot of buzz going in either. It didn't help that no one was buying him winning (just like Strong before him) and everyone saw a shit finish coming.

[Northwoods_Nightmare]

I don't know if you've noticed, but there's been a lot less buzz around O'Reilly in the time since this match - the exact opposite effect that a twist ending should have.

To be brutally honest, I've never felt that O'Reilly challenging for the world title had a lot of buzz going in either. It didn't help that no one was buying him winning (just like Strong before him) and everyone saw a shit finish coming.

For that match yes, but a lot of people were expecting that to be the set-up for a rematch and eventual title win down the line. It still might be for all we know, since O'Reilly has a claim that he still has Lethal's number in a fair one on one match. He had more success against Lethal than anyone on the roster, but for some reason that kind of flew under the radar longer than it should have.

[Big Red Machine]

That TV Title match with Watanabe totally infuriated me for a lot of the reasons people have been saying here. Can Jay Lethal really not beat Watanabe cleanly? And it's not like this will ever even lead to something because Watanabe's excursion is over. If the guy is leaving the territory, he should put someone over clean on his way out! Booking Roddy to get screwed is one thing. People love Roddy, and I can see how that would get heat. Booking Lethal to need to cheat to beat Watanabe doesn't get heat on Lethal. It just makes him look weak.

[fm20000]

bumping for relevance again in spring 2016

different reasons now. but he's still terrible

[187_Joeism]

I didn´t agree with the others complains about him at all but he lost me with his last booking decisions.

[monster mafia]

HE LOST HIS FUCKING MIND MAN...ANOTHER FLOP LIKE THE ELGIN THING

they have his best defense and the next night...come on!

[Northwoods_Nightmare]

I'm not defending the PPV ending angle, because I didn't like when/where it was executed at all, but there is an important point I haven't really seen yet.
This is the Bullet Club. Run-ins, fuck finishes, and recycled NWO crap is pretty much what they're known for. They brought down plenty of great matches in NJPW with this exact thing. Since the BC is filled with great wrestlers and they have awesome t-shirts everyone seems to forget the fact that true Bullet Club angles kind of suck. The finish to Global Wars certainly isn't the first time they've done something like that.
So yeah, the booking sucked from the sense of being not enjoyable, but it's right in line with the Bullet Club character.

[supersonic]

ITT folks not grasping that much of the booking is determined by politics, not generating buzz, telling epic stories, and solidifying the roster. As long as the formula continues to still draw based on brand name, this shit will continue. This is a poor man's WWE and doesn't look good with the ongoing, much hotter, more nuanced Reigns vs. Styles and Zayn vs. Owens feuds that are also far more accessible.

[Big Red Machine]

bumping for relevance again in spring 2016

different reasons now. but he's still terrible

No. Still the same reasons. They've just gotten much worse in the past six months.

[Mr. Mojo Risin]

bumping for relevance again in spring 2016

different reasons now. but he's still terrible

No. Still the same reasons. They've just gotten much worse in the past six months.

This.

[supersonic]

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