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Re: Random ROH Thoughts Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:16 pm
by AnHonorableMention
Wilson wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:23 pm Whatever is actually going on with Shane, at the very least they are doing well in promoting the angle. (Hope he is getting paid now more than he was before.)
There's a theory that was floated to me today is that he's doing what Keith Lee did to ROH and they're not smart enough to catch it. Playing it up like he's staying with ROH to drive his payoff from Impact/NJPW USA. Would not shock me to see ROH open up their wallets to keep him just so they can wag their finger and call out those who doubt them. 40 dates a year for six figures is a hell of a deal even if you're doing it in front of 300-500 people.

Re: Random ROH Thoughts Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:25 pm
by dhads7161
That ballroom at the Hilton New York Midtown was a nice looking venue when Wrestlecon ran it this year. Actually seemed like a near perfect space for wrestling. It would check all the boxes for ROH's needs it seems. Spacious enough for the ring area, small enough so ROH wouldn't have too be too big of a space. The venue's availability seating can be reduced or expanded as needed. The stage can also be tiered as well. The way they set it up for Wrestlecon's events reminded me.of the setup for WMs 4 and 5. Heck, ROH could even save on bringing in some of their equipment and just use the venue's video screens and just open the stage curtain like Wrestlecon did for their entrance.

Re: Random ROH Thoughts Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:41 pm
by monster mafia
wow, really high prices for njpw usa.

https://twitter.com/NJPWofAmerica/statu ... 6425295874

Re: Random ROH Thoughts Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:48 pm
by Shanahan
monster mafia wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:41 pm wow, really high prices for njpw usa.

https://twitter.com/NJPWofAmerica/statu ... 6425295874

wow is right. I was thinking of taking a vacation in jan to go to fla to see my mom and hit up njpw.....guess i'll be skipping njpw.

Re: Random ROH Thoughts Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:13 pm
by dhads7161
Most likely have to cover the costs of transporting the natives to the U.S. as well as the authentic New Japan ring and that kind of stuff. Doesn't help that these are smaller venues either so there won't be an abundance of low end priced tickets.

Re: Random ROH Thoughts Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:08 am
by rovert1
AnHonorableMention wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:16 pmThere's a theory that was floated to me today is that he's doing what Keith Lee did to ROH and they're not smart enough to catch it. Playing it up like he's staying with ROH to drive his payoff from Impact/NJPW USA. Would not shock me to see ROH open up their wallets to keep him just so they can wag their finger and call out those who doubt them. 40 dates a year for six figures is a hell of a deal even if you're doing it in front of 300-500 people.
A wrestler doing a leverage play during contract season. Next level stuff. What a crazy theory.

Re: Random ROH Thoughts Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:40 am
by famicommander
If PCO can be world champion in 2020 and the RNRE can be NWA Tag Champs without being laughed off the internet entirely, I want another damn Rhino world title run. Don't care which promotion.

Re: Random ROH Thoughts Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:30 pm
by famicommander
Rhino can work, and he's in better shape now that he's away from WWE's touring schedule again. He's still shy of his 45th birthday and I've always considered him extremely underrated. Won 9 belts including 2 world titles across ECW/TNA/WWE, but I didn't think his world title reigns got enough time to breathe. His ECW title run was ended by the death of the company and his NWA/TNA reign lasted like 2 days.

Re: Random ROH Thoughts Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:07 pm
by AnHonorableMention
famicommander wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:30 pm Rhino can work, and he's in better shape now that he's away from WWE's touring schedule again. He's still shy of his 45th birthday and I've always considered him extremely underrated. Won 9 belts including 2 world titles across ECW/TNA/WWE, but I didn't think his world title reigns got enough time to breathe. His ECW title run was ended by the death of the company and his NWA/TNA reign lasted like 2 days.
Yeah I completely agree with peak Rhino, 2000-2007ish, but I'm just not sure there's much I would care to see him do. That's the thing, does someone like PCO mean more now than the first time he was doing this gimmick? I want to see him less now than ever before. Same with Bubba Dudley. Less is more with guys that age.

Re: Random ROH Thoughts Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:09 pm
by famicommander
AnHonorableMention wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:07 pm
famicommander wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:30 pm Rhino can work, and he's in better shape now that he's away from WWE's touring schedule again. He's still shy of his 45th birthday and I've always considered him extremely underrated. Won 9 belts including 2 world titles across ECW/TNA/WWE, but I didn't think his world title reigns got enough time to breathe. His ECW title run was ended by the death of the company and his NWA/TNA reign lasted like 2 days.
Yeah I completely agree with peak Rhino, 2000-2007ish, but I'm just not sure there's much I would care to see him do. That's the thing, does someone like PCO mean more now than the first time he was doing this gimmick? I want to see him less now than ever before. Same with Bubba Dudley. Less is more with guys that age.
Rhino in 2019 is still a better wrestler than Bubba or PCO were in 1997.

Re: Random ROH Thoughts Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:10 pm
by AnHonorableMention
famicommander wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:09 pm
AnHonorableMention wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:07 pm
famicommander wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:30 pm Rhino can work, and he's in better shape now that he's away from WWE's touring schedule again. He's still shy of his 45th birthday and I've always considered him extremely underrated. Won 9 belts including 2 world titles across ECW/TNA/WWE, but I didn't think his world title reigns got enough time to breathe. His ECW title run was ended by the death of the company and his NWA/TNA reign lasted like 2 days.
Yeah I completely agree with peak Rhino, 2000-2007ish, but I'm just not sure there's much I would care to see him do. That's the thing, does someone like PCO mean more now than the first time he was doing this gimmick? I want to see him less now than ever before. Same with Bubba Dudley. Less is more with guys that age.
Rhino in 2019 is still a better wrestler than Bubba or PCO were in 1997.
I can't say I agree in either regard but that's why they make different flavors of ice cream.

Re: Random ROH Thoughts Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:22 pm
by monster mafia
AnHonorableMention wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:25 pm BIG LOL at rovert doing a run in. Back to psychotherapy for you weirdo.

As for Rhino, hard no there. PCO is a joke, and the RNR's are a novelty in an environment where workrate is the last on the list of importance.
Still waiting for anthony henry in roh.

Re: Random ROH Thoughts Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:02 pm
by monster mafia
Rhino is in tna anyway.

Re: Random ROH Thoughts Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:44 pm
by famicommander
monster mafia wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:02 pm Rhino is in tna anyway.
I specifically said I don't care what promotion, I just want another Rhino world title run.

ROH, Impact, MLW, WWE, AEW, AAA, CMLL, NJPW, NOAH, AJPW, Dragon Gate... as long as it's one of the big leagues. Those are the 11 major promotions in the world (not in that order, obviously), and some have multiple world titles each like WWE and CMLL. By my count Rhino wouldn't even be the 3rd oldest current world champion among major promotions (1. PCO 2. Jericho 3. Guerrero).

Re: Random ROH Thoughts Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:48 pm
by rovert1
Rhyno is a burnt-out husk, dude.

His IMPACT matches have been so sad they've barely used him after the first matches. He's SO slow now. Was a big fan of him but times move. His post-WWE matches have been super depressing.

Re: Random ROH Thoughts Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:18 pm
by famicommander
rovert1 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:48 pm Rhyno is a burnt-out husk, dude.

His IMPACT matches have been so sad they've barely used him after the first matches. He's SO slow now. Was a big fan of him but times move. His post-WWE matches have been super depressing.
He has a singles match on the next PPV...

Re: Random ROH Thoughts Thread

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:25 am
by rovert1
famicommander wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:18 pm
rovert1 wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:48 pm Rhyno is a burnt-out husk, dude.

His IMPACT matches have been so sad they've barely used him after the first matches. He's SO slow now. Was a big fan of him but times move. His post-WWE matches have been super depressing.
He has a singles match on the next PPV...
That changes nothing that I said it will be the worst reviewed match onthe show.

Re: Random ROH Thoughts Thread

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:19 am
by Montana
On the Rhyno subject.... I think he still has a few good years left. He probably just needs to get his legs back. He's been on WWE's bench for a while, so i'm sure with some cardio, and getting back into wrestling regularly he'll be fine. He's a great fit for Impact. (especially compared to the other ECW wrestlers) That being said, i'm not sure i'd want his as world champ for Impact. He's in that veteran role, to help get the younger talent over. Although im really not a fan of Sami or Tessa as world champ for them either... so who knows.

Re: Random ROH Thoughts Thread

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:28 am
by Montana
On a side note.... Impact revamped their website and looks great. ROH needs an refresh badly.

Re: Random ROH Thoughts Thread

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:41 am
by monster mafia
Lol tna thread is in other side

Thanks...