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A taping schedule would likely be the easiest to come up. If the really want to push it... they could record for 2 or even 3 days in a row; for 8 hours... which could get them about 16-24 Hours of footage; which could be stretched to 32-48 episodes of content. Can like live in the ring and backstage at the same time. But i think every month or every two months of taping is perfectly fine; given the circumstances. FIgured with the international talent; they might as well get 2-3 days of tapings in. They could even do what Impact does, and add in a classic match; thus stretching out the new content even further.

It will be interesting to see what they do for HonorClub members. I signed up in March 2020; thus never really got to see a live event yet in this term; and never got my extra 3 months. I don't expect them to live stream these TV tapings; but maybe they do.
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Montana wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:58 am A taping schedule would likely be the easiest to come up. If the really want to push it... they could record for 2 or even 3 days in a row; for 8 hours... which could get them about 16-24 Hours of footage; which could be stretched to 32-48 episodes of content. Can like live in the ring and backstage at the same time. But i think every month or every two months of taping is perfectly fine; given the circumstances. FIgured with the international talent; they might as well get 2-3 days of tapings in. They could even do what Impact does, and add in a classic match; thus stretching out the new content even further.

It will be interesting to see what they do for HonorClub members. I signed up in March 2020; thus never really got to see a live event yet in this term; and never got my extra 3 months. I don't expect them to live stream these TV tapings; but maybe they do.
I guess you could keep them together for a week each month as long as they test negative. Have say one day taping, the next day day creative work, then a day off for everyone to hang, a good team bonding day, then another day of tapings and then a final day of creative work.

I think for Honor Club having bonus matches, maybe even having a dream match scenario where similar to what Cody is doing you bring the best wrestlers in proving ground matches say against, Gresham, Lethal etc and just let them go. None of the future of Honor stuff it’s really showing you are giving them a shot. Having specialised sit down interviews, really in depth say going around old neighbourhoods or cities if possible.
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BurningHammer wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:58 pm
Montana wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:58 am A taping schedule would likely be the easiest to come up. If the really want to push it... they could record for 2 or even 3 days in a row; for 8 hours... which could get them about 16-24 Hours of footage; which could be stretched to 32-48 episodes of content. Can like live in the ring and backstage at the same time. But i think every month or every two months of taping is perfectly fine; given the circumstances. FIgured with the international talent; they might as well get 2-3 days of tapings in. They could even do what Impact does, and add in a classic match; thus stretching out the new content even further.

It will be interesting to see what they do for HonorClub members. I signed up in March 2020; thus never really got to see a live event yet in this term; and never got my extra 3 months. I don't expect them to live stream these TV tapings; but maybe they do.
I guess you could keep them together for a week each month as long as they test negative. Have say one day taping, the next day day creative work, then a day off for everyone to hang, a good team bonding day, then another day of tapings and then a final day of creative work.

I think for Honor Club having bonus matches, maybe even having a dream match scenario where similar to what Cody is doing you bring the best wrestlers in proving ground matches say against, Gresham, Lethal etc and just let them go. None of the future of Honor stuff it’s really showing you are giving them a shot. Having specialised sit down interviews, really in depth say going around old neighbourhoods or cities if possible.
Good Ideas... I do like the taping schedule of taping matches one day, then another day of creative work. The youtube stuff has been working. I hope this continue this, to some degree moving forward even after after live events resume.

Having some exclusive documentaries on HonorClub would be pretty cool. There is still quite a bit of video footage between best of's and straight shootin' and other one off stuff they could add. I wouldn't mind a future of honor reality type show... but at this point; I'd probably more most of my efforts on ROH; rather than FOH.

I signed up for a year VIP membership SOLELY for new live events.... and i'm assuming ROH will credit folks during the time off.... but haven't seen anything since the start of COVID saying we'll be credited for the 3 months; which i never got. Not overly concerned right now; just would be nice if ROH kept their fans informed while paying for the service. At least they are filling out the back catalogue. I know i could e-mail support now... but who knows how long before they live stream events on HonorClub.
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a lot of talent from different countries (mexico, uk, australia), diffucult stuff but i hope they can make things work out.
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Montana wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:12 pm
BurningHammer wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:58 pm
Montana wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:58 am A taping schedule would likely be the easiest to come up. If the really want to push it... they could record for 2 or even 3 days in a row; for 8 hours... which could get them about 16-24 Hours of footage; which could be stretched to 32-48 episodes of content. Can like live in the ring and backstage at the same time. But i think every month or every two months of taping is perfectly fine; given the circumstances. FIgured with the international talent; they might as well get 2-3 days of tapings in. They could even do what Impact does, and add in a classic match; thus stretching out the new content even further.

It will be interesting to see what they do for HonorClub members. I signed up in March 2020; thus never really got to see a live event yet in this term; and never got my extra 3 months. I don't expect them to live stream these TV tapings; but maybe they do.
I guess you could keep them together for a week each month as long as they test negative. Have say one day taping, the next day day creative work, then a day off for everyone to hang, a good team bonding day, then another day of tapings and then a final day of creative work.

I think for Honor Club having bonus matches, maybe even having a dream match scenario where similar to what Cody is doing you bring the best wrestlers in proving ground matches say against, Gresham, Lethal etc and just let them go. None of the future of Honor stuff it’s really showing you are giving them a shot. Having specialised sit down interviews, really in depth say going around old neighbourhoods or cities if possible.
Good Ideas... I do like the taping schedule of taping matches one day, then another day of creative work. The youtube stuff has been working. I hope this continue this, to some degree moving forward even after after live events resume.

Having some exclusive documentaries on HonorClub would be pretty cool. There is still quite a bit of video footage between best of's and straight shootin' and other one off stuff they could add. I wouldn't mind a future of honor reality type show... but at this point; I'd probably more most of my efforts on ROH; rather than FOH.

I signed up for a year VIP membership SOLELY for new live events.... and i'm assuming ROH will credit folks during the time off.... but haven't seen anything since the start of COVID saying we'll be credited for the 3 months; which i never got. Not overly concerned right now; just would be nice if ROH kept their fans informed while paying for the service. At least they are filling out the back catalogue. I know i could e-mail support now... but who knows how long before they live stream events on HonorClub.
I know a lot of the guys hated doing pre tapes but you certainly don’t have to just record in a studio. It’s one thing I feel ROH has struggled with, setting the right aesthetic, culture atmosphere to their promos. They have so many different nationalities on their roster that would really benefit from being highlighted or brought out in their promo’s. I realise it can be difficult to find the balance as you can end like WWE and generally just being racist or insensitive but putting some guys in different places would really help their work. Make the days interesting fun or creative and you’ll get the best out of these guys.
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Would any of you like to see Rush back in ROH? He just made his appearance at GCW
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I’m a huge fan of Lio Rush. Clearly he has some issues and needs a bit of loving and management - but he is outrageously gifted.

His run in 2016/17 was ludicrously good considering his (relative) lack of experience and how unevenly he was booked.

When they announced that round of talent releases he was among the guys I thought ROH could do the most with and probably the top name I wanted them to pick up (along with Deonna, but I acknowledged the Marty situation made her unlikely). I suspect the amount of management he needs will probably rule it out though...
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So much for that retirement...I'd be all for Lio Rush coming back. ROH is a great spot for him to showcase his talents; against some of the best wrestlers in the world. The hope would be for Lio to mature now that he is a bit older/wiser. He's still only 25; but worth rolling the dice, imo.

Lio Rush and Chris Hero are at the top of my list; of realistic pick up for ROH. Mike Bennett makes perfect sense/timing too.
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TBH I forgot all about Hero being released! He would definitely be my top choice for ROH to pick up, albeit I suspect he has plenty of options and working for Sinclair-owned ROH may not be at the top sadly...
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Yes, Chris Hero likely has a lot of options, especially with his international experience. He could do so many good things for ROH in and out of the ring. I think ROH has a shot.... but will likely come down to how good of a deal they can put together. I'm not sure if he would be at the top of Impact/AEW wish list; but i could be wrong.

I can't say enough good things about Chris Hero; and the fact that he's won about 40 titles, and never a world championship... never a good push in WWE. It's a crime. Some of it is luck and timing; but he's one of those special guys in the wrestling world and hopefully he doesn't feel his nxt/wwe time as wasted. ROH may be his best shot; and best time for him to get in the World Title picture.

Who knows... maybe he stays a free agent, and works multiple indies like Jeff Cobb, and Alex Shelley.
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I wouldn't be opposed to him reigniting his feud against Kingston in AEW and showing the younger crew how to properly structure and deliver a visceral grudge feud. This is of course in reference to all of their stuff together outside of ROH 2009. Both are in such a different place than the 2000s as well.
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If they were to bring in Chris Hero and if Scurll were to get outed for his accusations then I'd say give Chris the book and all the money they were paying Scurll. Only other guys I would say give the book to are Dem Boys think they would do a fantastic job.
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On week by week the trend is coming to roh and shane helms is back in roh
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Safe to say Delirious is back in charge with the bad gimmicks filling up ROH again.

I really didn’t think ROH could get much worse when it came to debuting talent but to have someone called Sledge and then have a gimmick that is based off ‘TheTrend’ I don’t know where to begin really. It was made even worse but the quite awful production values, I really thought ROH had turn the corner with its graphic and production work but that video confirms they just don’t give a shit at all or the person previously involved isn’t anymore.

Also saw a close up of the ROHStrong logo, I mean they seriously blocked out the backing and couldn’t be bothered to use transparency to leave it free up against the shape being it. Jeebus this is first year stuff.

I’m hoping that the Shane Helms stuff was just a throw back to his time in ROH, similarly to what they did with Blue Meanie or at the best case scenario it is just a sign he is with the company in a backstage role which I’d be very much ok with.
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I would tend to think ROH is using another booker/producer currently... However a little odd nothing more was said about Marty/Maff. For all we know they've been suspended. Guess i'm not too surprised though. Most likely delirious resumed his role; but i doubt he'd dramatically change things over the last few weeks. They did seem to show quite a bit of old classic ROH footage too on Week by Week which is encouraging. (I'm all for giving Chris Hero the book too... or a producer role)

As far Sledge goes.... they signed him to Future of Honor... So i wouldn't say the sky is falling yet. Actually seems like a semi-interesting character. I'm willing to give it some time and give it a shot. Although i find it a little odd, if he's signed to FOH; why do none of the other FOH guys get a rub. Personally i think FOH should be the last thing ROH should worry about now.

Gregory Helms could be a good signing for backstage producer. I highly doubt he's wrestling full time; maybe a one off appearance here or there.

#FollowtheTrend .... im interested. I'm a sucker for stuff like this. I love the mystery of things like this; and hopefully it turns into something good. I have no clue what this is referring too. Maybe a wrestler; maybe a new faction, or maybe a new working relationship for ROH. Guess we'll have to wait and see.... but for some reason; with the trend rising and dying; i thought of ROH and AEW. Very far fetched; but guess we'll have to wait and see.

It does seem like ROH is really trying to get over people like the Bouncers. Danhausen, Joe Hendry and a few others on the show. Guys like Lethal/Briscoes/Rush don't need the push as much.
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AEW wouldn’t have something with that bad a production involved with their programming and rightfully so. There are two things that interested me slightly one there is a slight change in type for the R in the wording which maybe a link to Ryder (too far fetched?). Then The phrase when ‘one trend dies, a thousand rise’ is a play on something SOS have said, so It could be linked to STP possibly or ROH is just too lazy too think of something original which wasn’t surprise me. I just hope the talent is a strong enough name to be able to pull it off. Does anyone know the city scape that was used in the package?

The likes of The Bouncers, Sledge etc are very much Delirious stuff. I just can’t get over how they seemingly don’t use their metrics to understand what is best for the company, the Bouncers etc have had the lowest viewing figures of pretty much anything that ROH has done yet they are still shoved down our throats which again is very much a Delirious tactic. If Sledge is just for some very sub par role with Future of Honor no problem but I’m guessing we are going to see him as TV champ sooner than later.
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BurningHammer wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:08 pm

The likes of The Bouncers, Sledge etc are very much Delirious stuff. I just can’t get over how they seemingly don’t use their metrics to understand what is best for the company, the Bouncers etc have had the lowest viewing figures of pretty much anything that ROH has done yet they are still shoved down our throats which again is very much a Delirious tactic. If Sledge is just for some very sub par role with Future of Honor no problem but I’m guessing we are going to see him as TV champ sooner than later.
Where can I see that "The Bouncers have had the lowest viewing figures"?
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NewROHFan2020 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:36 am
BurningHammer wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:08 pm

The likes of The Bouncers, Sledge etc are very much Delirious stuff. I just can’t get over how they seemingly don’t use their metrics to understand what is best for the company, the Bouncers etc have had the lowest viewing figures of pretty much anything that ROH has done yet they are still shoved down our throats which again is very much a Delirious tactic. If Sledge is just for some very sub par role with Future of Honor no problem but I’m guessing we are going to see him as TV champ sooner than later.
Where can I see that "The Bouncers have had the lowest viewing figures"?
Should have clarified that I meant through ROH’s social media. Regardless it’s simply moronic to think that putting the Bouncers constantly at the head of the que for airtime shows where ROH is especially under Delirious.
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Not saying it's right/wrong but i think the intent with the bouncers to get more air time is to help get them over. Plus they have a gimmick that fits toward entertainment. I assume if they really push them and don't get over, they would move on from them.

The other problem with the bouncers was their booking with them. They were just kinda there in the tag division. They really didn't have much in the way of a major feud.

Zack Ryder as the "Follow the Trend" would be interesting. Could be Bennett too.
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BurningHammer wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:06 pm
NewROHFan2020 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:36 am
BurningHammer wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:08 pm

The likes of The Bouncers, Sledge etc are very much Delirious stuff. I just can’t get over how they seemingly don’t use their metrics to understand what is best for the company, the Bouncers etc have had the lowest viewing figures of pretty much anything that ROH has done yet they are still shoved down our throats which again is very much a Delirious tactic. If Sledge is just for some very sub par role with Future of Honor no problem but I’m guessing we are going to see him as TV champ sooner than later.
Where can I see that "The Bouncers have had the lowest viewing figures"?
Should have clarified that I meant through ROH’s social media. Regardless it’s simply moronic to think that putting the Bouncers constantly at the head of the que for airtime shows where ROH is especially under Delirious.
The Bouncers are two highly-motivated individuals that are trying to make the best out of the pandemic by writing and producing their own content for the same platform that is afforded to all of ROH's stars.

Similarly, what you see on the YouTube page are our guys and gals produce engaging content. Everything besides Week by Week is talent driven with production assistance and even Week by Week has a lot of good ad-libbing and flare from Quinn.

I don't think they should be penalized for taking initiative and, while I'm biased, I quite like what they're doing.
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