Austin Aries?

ADouble · Post by **ADouble** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:53 am

What's the deal with him currently? Bryan Alvarez says he's working an ippv this weekend, which is forbidden for TNA contracted workers. Is he done soon? Would love to see him back in ROH (Syd and Cornette are gone, so maybe his thoughts on the company are different in 2014).

DirtyDave · Post by **DirtyDave** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:03 am

TNA's trying to get younger/cheaper guys so I would say Aries is in trouble if his contract is up soon. TNA's not in great shape right now clearly. Selfishly, I'd love to see Aries back in ROH. Sabin, Daniels, Kazarian etc I'd take too

lariat_tubman · Post by **lariat_tubman** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:05 am

via wrestlinginc

It's said that Austin Aries hasn't been used much lately because he's in the company doghouse. He had a blow-up at the recent set of TV tapings and TNA pretty much iced him.

I read this a few places but who knows if it's true of not. It seems like whenever someone doesn't appear on tv for a little while they are 'in the doghouse'. And I think he'd be okay for a few matches but there isn't too much for him to do in ROH anymore.

DirtyDave · Post by **DirtyDave** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:06 am

lariat_tubman wrote:via wrestlinginc

I read this a few places but who knows if it's true of not. It seems like whenever someone doesn't appear on tv for a little while they are 'in the doghouse'. And I think he'd be okay for a few matches but there isn't too much for him to do in ROH anymore.

how about have great matches with different wrestlers? that's something he could do in ROH

Marketh. · Post by **Marketh.** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:26 am

As I keep saying every time, there's always something to do if you're creative.

Big Red Machine · Post by **Big Red Machine** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:44 am

WWE and TNA both seem to like three year contracts a lot, which would mean Aries' deal would be up this summer.

TYFDK · Post by **TYFDK** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:46 am

Nah. If ROH wouldn't give Davey a send-off, you think they'd bring back Aries, despite having so much history in ROH?

Nah.

lariat_tubman · Post by **lariat_tubman** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:47 am

DirtyDave wrote:
lariat_tubman wrote:via wrestlinginc

I read this a few places but who knows if it's true of not. It seems like whenever someone doesn't appear on tv for a little while they are 'in the doghouse'. And I think he'd be okay for a few matches but there isn't too much for him to do in ROH anymore.
how about have great matches with different wrestlers? that's something he could do in ROH

I think he'd be good for a few shows (maybe like a Paul London-esque deal) cause definitely Aries vs. Elgin, Hero, Strong, Cole would all likely be great but I wouldn't bring him in as a full time roster member.

Also would Aries come back? He doesn't seem to have that much nostalgia for ROH and I don't think they would throw that much of a big money deal his way.

The Dragon Saga · Post by **The Dragon Saga** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:49 am

I think he's a dick, I wouldn't support his return and I wouldn't want him to have much success, but for great matches, sure, bring him back. Guy is still a dick though, who if he returned would probably want A+ treatment, which means always winning, never looking bad, etc.

lariat_tubman · Post by **lariat_tubman** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:54 am

The Dragon Saga wrote:I think he's a dick, I wouldn't support his return and I wouldn't want him to have much success, but for great matches, sure, bring him back. Guy is still a dick though, who if he returned would probably want A+ treatment, which means always winning, never looking bad, etc.

Is he a big enough draw to be a dick though, isn't that the question? If he puts asses in seats I think they'd look the other way about his attitude he seems to have sometimes (we seem to see this a lot in wrestling) but if he doesn't then they won't.

supersonic · Post by **supersonic** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:08 am

What's the rationale for caring about how someone is backstage?

Also, Aries has always been willing to job, don't confuse him with Low Ki.

lariat_tubman · Post by **lariat_tubman** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:13 am

supersonic wrote:What's the rationale for caring about how someone is backstage?

From our fan perspective none, it doesn't matter what he is like (within reason of course).

From a company perspective a lot, why bring in a guy who is unpleasant to work with?

supersonic · Post by **supersonic** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:23 am

To give the customers the best television product possible. It's why Christian Bale gets opportunities despite his notorious reputation.

lariat_tubman · Post by **lariat_tubman** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:31 am

I guess I just think there are a lot of very good wrestlers out there without notorious reputations that ROH could bring in. And Aries probably isn't going to bring in a ton of new viewers to the tv show or more buys for PPVs so I would just bring in someone who is less difficult. This is all just my opinion of course.

The Dragon Saga · Post by **The Dragon Saga** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:53 am

lariat_tubman wrote:
The Dragon Saga wrote:I think he's a dick, I wouldn't support his return and I wouldn't want him to have much success, but for great matches, sure, bring him back. Guy is still a dick though, who if he returned would probably want A+ treatment, which means always winning, never looking bad, etc.
Is he a big enough draw to be a dick though, isn't that the question? If he puts asses in seats I think they'd look the other way about his attitude he seems to have sometimes (we seem to see this a lot in wrestling) but if he doesn't then they won't.

Is he a draw though? Does he put peoples asses in the seats? I will say that his run as TNA World Champion and Roode previous to it were the best time periods for TNA in the last five years, he's entertaining and I'd never say people don't have a reason to like him, however I just think the guy is an overall dick.

Tars Tarkas · Post by **Tars Tarkas** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:27 am

Aries is one of the main reasons I got into ROH. I would LOVE to see him back having matches with the current roster. I tried to get into TNA when he joined because they did push him there, even making him champion, but watching TNA was such a dull slog that I gave up. I know he does not have much warmth towards ROH but it is a different regime and if he was available then I would love him to be pushed in ROH as a major player again. As Supersonic said, it's about giving the fans the best possible product. I don't really give a stuff what he's like backstage.

supersonic · Post by **supersonic** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:39 am

The idea of only giving opportunities to "likeable" guys is what leads to atrocities such as Silent Rage winning Tough Enough.

indyfan · Post by **indyfan** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:30 am

Aries is better than Steen, Elgin, Briscoes, Ciampa, Jacobs, Lethal, Strong, ACH and Hero.

Damn right id welcome him back! I don't care about their attitudes. ROH has never been the same once Aries left imo.

supersonic wrote:To give the customers the best television product possible. It's why Christian Bale gets opportunities despite his notorious reputation.

Aries destroys Bale as well!!!

But your point still stands.

get Aries back ASAP!!!

JTCole · Post by **JTCole** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:30 am

supersonic wrote:The idea of only giving opportunities to "likeable" guys is what leads to atrocities such as Silent Rage winning Tough Enough.

At least they quickly rectified that error and now hire (mostly) good talent.

Back to Aries, sure he should come back to ROH if TNA drops him and he wants to. Sure he made some disparaging remarks about ROH in the past but I'd hope the company wouldn't be that petty to keep him out just for that.

Robareid · Post by **Robareid** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:35 am

I'd love Aries back. He's an absolutely amazing wrestler, complete tier one, very few can be put in the same bracket as him (Punk, Bryan, Cesaro, Tanahashi, Nakamura, Okada, Zayn, maybe Rollins and Steen...). However, while him having a supposed bad attitude doesn't effect my viewing pleasure much, it likely limits his opportunities to showcase his phenomenal talent.

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