ROH Debuts on live PPV w/ BITW '14~

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ROHFan25 wrote:AJ not expected to be at the show. And $25 is expensive, but it's fair. NJPW big PPVs are $25 on UStream. Let's see the card, how the show is promoted, the storylines, etc before we rule out spending $25 for a PPV.

Yes, WWE PPVs are $10 a month now. Lets not forget for years they cost $50 and they were absolute shit. $25 for a good show is very fair.
Generalizing a bit there aren't we? Now sure it's fair to say WWE PPVs were too expensive and most not worth that much money but to say they were all "shit" is a bit much.
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WWE has their own network. They can charge whatever they want, they dictate the price. This is PPV. You can't charge $10 for a 3 hour show without losing an unbelievable amount of money. Its 2 shows a year costing $25 each. Perfectly fine. If people will pay $15 for iPPVs I don't see why a $10 increase would matter especially considering the improvements that are coming, and stability of PPV vs Stream.

And yes it's a generalization but realistically how many WWE PPVs from 2006-2010 were actually worth the price? Not many.
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ROHFan25 wrote:WWE has their own network. They can charge whatever they want, they dictate the price. This is PPV. You can't charge $10 for a 3 hour show without losing an unbelievable amount of money. Its 2 shows a year costing $25 each. Perfectly fine. If people will pay $15 for iPPVs I don't see why a $10 increase would matter especially considering the improvements that are coming, and stability of PPV vs Stream.

And yes it's a generalization but realistically how many WWE PPVs from 2006-2010 were actually worth the price? Not many.
Well yeah that's true. They clung to that model for so long due to somehow making a profit off even the least bought shows.
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ROHFan25 wrote:WWE has their own network. They can charge whatever they want, they dictate the price. This is PPV. You can't charge $10 for a 3 hour show without losing an unbelievable amount of money. Its 2 shows a year costing $25 each. Perfectly fine. If people will pay $15 for iPPVs I don't see why a $10 increase would matter especially considering the improvements that are coming, and stability of PPV vs Stream.

And yes it's a generalization but realistically how many WWE PPVs from 2006-2010 were actually worth the price? Not many.

When i bought ippvs from ROH it was 15.00 for it and 10 bucks for the 6 pack i drank while watching it. I need my beer when i watch wrestling. And no one is saying charge 10.00 for a ppv. But they could charge 25.00 for a ppv and send the dvd for free when its released. Especially since its cost peanuts to make dvds.
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indyfan wrote:
ROHFan25 wrote:WWE has their own network. They can charge whatever they want, they dictate the price. This is PPV. You can't charge $10 for a 3 hour show without losing an unbelievable amount of money. Its 2 shows a year costing $25 each. Perfectly fine. If people will pay $15 for iPPVs I don't see why a $10 increase would matter especially considering the improvements that are coming, and stability of PPV vs Stream.

And yes it's a generalization but realistically how many WWE PPVs from 2006-2010 were actually worth the price? Not many.

When i bought ippvs from ROH it was 15.00 for it and 10 bucks for the 6 pack i drank while watching it. I need my beer when i watch wrestling. And no one is saying charge 10.00 for a ppv. But they could charge 25.00 for a ppv and send the dvd for free when its released. Especially since its cost peanuts to make dvds.
That's actually a good idea. Well, I think so at least, don't know how feasible it is.
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Listening to Court on F4WOnline and when asked if AJ will be there, he says.

"From what I know he is booked in Japan, but you never know. We'll try and fingers crossed, because he's a force."
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I'll get this show if #MonsterMafia vs Young Bucks or reDRagon is a thing.
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Y'all should be talking about the $30-$35 price tag, not $25. People should not be ordering standard definition PPVs in 2014.
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BTW10 wrote:Y'all should be talking about the $30-$35 price tag, not $25. People should not be ordering standard definition PPVs in 2014.
I don't understand why SD stuff is still being offered anyway.
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Agreed.. shows should be offered in HD, if you're one of the unlucky few who's still viewing in SD, you get to watch in letterbox. Not sure why they're still charging for HD
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HD is free on UStream ?
I don't know how they could do it, but free HD for Ringside Members or if you order more than one event at the same time could be good.
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But standard definition DVDs are just fine and dandy?
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bigz38 wrote:But standard definition DVDs are just fine and dandy?
Well, there's no such thing as high definition DVDs...
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Being on PPV is a pretty big deal. I think ROH has a better shot at winning new fans on PPV than with the TV show, which I think is pretty bland. Especially if they're creative with it. Showing select matches for free on demand afterwards. That's actually how I got into TNA, so the same could happen with ROH.
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It's good that ROH returns to PPV, and in HD! This makes me wonder if the shows will be released on blu-ray? That would be fun, unless it's not region free.
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If you look at the schedules on AJ Styles' official website (ajstyles.org), it includes a New Japan Show on June 21st. So this definitely confirms that he will not be at Best in the World.
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Anyone know if the Young Bucks are scheduled on that same NJPW tour? It would definitely be good to have a tag title defense at BITW, assuming they're not going to lose the titles at Toronto or New York.
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DXvsNWO1994 wrote:If you look at the schedules on AJ Styles' official website (ajstyles.org), it includes a New Japan Show on June 21st. So this definitely confirms that he will not be at Best in the World.
There are 40 hours in between the shows, so I don´t think that confirms it. Also, they moved this event a day, so there´s got to be a reason they did that, which might very well be so they could have Styles and the Young Bucks on this show.
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jordidebaas wrote:
DXvsNWO1994 wrote:If you look at the schedules on AJ Styles' official website (ajstyles.org), it includes a New Japan Show on June 21st. So this definitely confirms that he will not be at Best in the World.
There are 40 hours in between the shows, so I don´t think that confirms it. Also, they moved this event a day, so there´s got to be a reason they did that, which might very well be so they could have Styles and the Young Bucks on this show.
They moved it to Sunday because it's the traditional PPV day and because statistics show that more people buy wrestling PPV's on a Sunday, Court spoke to Meltzer and Alvarez about this the day the announcement dropped.
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