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Re: Bizarre Kevin Kelly Commentary

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:26 pm
by lariat_tubman
via pwinsider
I think Kevin Kelly is a good play by play commentator, but I'm watching NJPW on AXS TV and Mauro Ranallo is great, maybe the best I've heard since Joey Styles. Do you think ROH should try and sign Ranallo? I think he can make ROH even that more fun to watch.

Ranallo is awesome, but Kevin Kelly is perfect for Ring of Honor. I don't think ROH should replace him

Re: Bizarre Kevin Kelly Commentary

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:40 pm
by supersonic
Kelly is fucking God-awful at conveying passion and emotion, which is critical for a sports broadcast. Fucking low-rent trash and one of the underlying reasons I didn't bother to stay current with ROH viewing in 2011.

Re: Bizarre Kevin Kelly Commentary

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 7:04 pm
by lariat_tubman
supersonic wrote:Kelly is fucking God-awful at conveying passion and emotion, which is critical for a sports broadcast. Fucking low-rent trash and one of the underlying reasons I didn't bother to stay current with ROH viewing in 2011.
I try to not look at things as bad if I don't like them, just not my taste. But yeah, I honestly do not get how someone could argue him being a good commentator.

Re: Bizarre Kevin Kelly Commentary

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:17 pm
by Keith_from_MN
lariat_tubman wrote:via pwinsider
I think Kevin Kelly is a good play by play commentator, but I'm watching NJPW on AXS TV and Mauro Ranallo is great, maybe the best I've heard since Joey Styles. Do you think ROH should try and sign Ranallo? I think he can make ROH even that more fun to watch.

Ranallo is awesome, but Kevin Kelly is perfect for Ring of Honor. I don't think ROH should replace him
I question the recommendation of anyone who thinks that Joey Styles was a good commentator.

Re: Bizarre Kevin Kelly Commentary

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:59 pm
by Sandy Fork
Put Kelly backstage or in the office. And get someone new in. Even better if that someone can keep King in check as well.

Re: Bizarre Kevin Kelly Commentary

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:54 am
by Marketh.
lariat_tubman wrote:via pwinsider

Ranallo is awesome, but Kevin Kelly is perfect for Ring of Honor.
As a father figure, maybe.

Re: Bizarre Kevin Kelly Commentary

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 5:11 am
by Robareid
Yeah, Kelley is probably my least favourite thing about ROH at the moment. His call lacks any passion or emotion, he doesn't get across or even seem to properly understand half the storylines and he doesn't even call any of the moves. As a play-by-play guy, he's useless.

Maybe he's really good on the production side of things, but unfortunately he just seems locked into the commentary position for the foreseeable future.

Re: Bizarre Kevin Kelly Commentary

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:13 am
by Sandy Fork
All we need is for him to go "what a maneuver" and we'll have 80's-90's Vince. But Vince could sell big moments

Re: Bizarre Kevin Kelly Commentary

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 8:40 am
by lariat_tubman
Granted its only been two weeks since ROH got on DA but on twitter and the comment sections of news sites I've seen a lot of KK and KC love, which I am pretty surprised by to say the least.

Re: Bizarre Kevin Kelly Commentary

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 8:51 am
by Burnside
lariat_tubman wrote:Granted its only been two weeks since ROH got on DA but on twitter and the comment sections of news sites I've seen a lot of KK and KC love, which I am pretty surprised by to say the least.
Keep in mind many people are only ever listening to the Raw announcers or the TNA announcers. As bad as Kelly is, he must sound like Howard fucking Cosell to someone who has Michael Cole, Josh Mathews, Al Snow, JBL, Lawler, or Mike Tenay as their only real basis for comparison.

Re: Bizarre Kevin Kelly Commentary

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:12 am
by Sandy Fork
I'm a big Cole defender, since when he is on point, he is REALLY on point imo. And his work on coaching and directing the NXT commentary has been good. But I can see how that makes sense.

Re: Bizarre Kevin Kelly Commentary

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:26 am
by Burnside
Sandy Fork wrote:I'm a big Cole defender, since when he is on point, he is REALLY on point imo. And his work on coaching and directing the NXT commentary has been good. But I can see how that makes sense.
It's pretty clear that Cole is quite talented and might very well be a good announcer were he not announcing Raw and being made to do it in keeping with WWE's unbearably sterile and lifeless production style, complete with forced fake laughter at unfunny comedy, bizarre Orwellian language restrictions, and non-human dialogue, Maggle.

Re: Bizarre Kevin Kelly Commentary

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:40 am
by Wilson
Michael Cole has always had the reins put on him though, you could only see his true expression in brief glimpses—which are generally pretty good. Seeing the bowdlerization and neutering of Lawler and JBL have been the much more crushing blows. Jerry Lawler may have even been my favorite at one point…

As for Kelly and Corino, I’m sure that they might make a decent first impression to some. Unlike most teams, they actually seem to have a friendship that extends beyond the one hour tagalong to get through another night of pro wrestling shenanigans. It is not until several shows that their distinct flavor of commentary is fully revealed and in turn fully reviled.

Re: Bizarre Kevin Kelly Commentary

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:19 pm
by Sardonic Artery
Josh Matthews is decent when he isn't going heel in his commentary.

The big question: Is Kevin Kelly ROH's Schiavone?

Re: Bizarre Kevin Kelly Commentary

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:44 am
by Marketh.
lariat_tubman wrote:Granted its only been two weeks since ROH got on DA but on twitter and the comment sections of news sites I've seen a lot of KK and KC love, which I am pretty surprised by to say the least.
These people have only heard the "over the top rope DQ" joke once or twice, tbf. Once they start wondering who the fuck Thunderbolt Patterson is, they'll start to turn.

Re: Bizarre Kevin Kelly Commentary

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:51 pm
by Northwoods_Nightmare
Kelly: "Death Before Dishonor, the eighth edition, will be coming to you live from Baltimore on July 24."

And yeah, the amount of people I see saying how terrific Corino and Kelly are always surprises me. The thing that might piss me off the most about ROH right now is when those two are completely ignoring the match and just babbling on about something no one cares about; meanwhile they have a terrific commentator in McGuinness just being completely unused.
For crying out loud, as much as we made fun of Caleb Seltzer he even seems like an upgrade at times.

Re: Bizarre Kevin Kelly Commentary

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 3:24 pm
by Wilson
I'm watching last weekend's episode now. Kevin Kelly at his most computationally robotic:

"He [Jay Lethal] also defends the World Heavyweight . . . The World Title . . ! Jay Lethal will defend the World Title!"

Re: Bizarre Kevin Kelly Commentary

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:03 am
by Marketh.
"Mark Briscoe could be the ROH World Television Champion, a dream of his since he was a kid!"

Re: Bizarre Kevin Kelly Commentary

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 11:03 am
by Marketh.
"BJ Whitmer enjoys making other people miserable. I knew this 10 years ago, when he was hanging out with Allison Danger. Now, he thinks I won't say what went on 'cause he's a true jerk. He knows what he did."

So did Corino, on a VOD C-level show, just make a fairly big advance of the plot of the BJ feud during a skippable BJ/Romantic Touch match? BJ screwed and dumped Corino's sister?

Re: Bizarre Kevin Kelly Commentary

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:44 am
by Big Red Machine
Marketh. wrote:"BJ Whitmer enjoys making other people miserable. I knew this 10 years ago, when he was hanging out with Allison Danger. Now, he thinks I won't say what went on 'cause he's a true jerk. He knows what he did."

So did Corino, on a VOD C-level show, just make a fairly big advance of the plot of the BJ feud during a skippable BJ/Romantic Touch match? BJ screwed and dumped Corino's sister?
I figured this was supposed to be referencing that time Whitmer gave her an a wrist-clutch exploder suplex which Gabe used about a year later to set up a mini-feud between Whitmer and Daniels that got interrupted by the CZW stuff.