RATE IT: Morishima vs. McGuinness (Undeniable) CLOSED

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9/23/12
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RATE IT: Takeshi Morishima vs. Nigel McGuinness (Undeniable 10.6.2007 - ROH World Title Match)

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7. Nigel McGuinness vs. Bryan Danielson (Driven 6.23.2007) 4.75 (20 votes)
8. Samoa Joe vs. Bryan Danielson (Midnight Express Reunion 10.2.2004 – ROH World Title Match) 4.72 (17 votes)
9. Kevin Steen vs. El Generico (Final Battle 2010 12.18.2010 – Fight Without Honor/ROH Career vs. Mask Match) 4.71 (22 votes)
10. Samoa Joe vs. Kenta Kobashi (Joe vs. Kobashi 10.1.2005) 4.70 (46 votes)
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13. Samoa Joe vs. CM Punk (All Star Extravaganza II 12.4.2004 – ROH World Title Match) 4.62 (29 votes)
14. Jimmy Jacobs vs. BJ Whitmer (Supercard of Honor II 3.31.2007 – Cage Match) 4.62 (27 votes)
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16. Low Ki vs. The American Dragon (Round Robin Challenge 3.30.2002) 4.61 (20 votes)
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18. Bryan Danielson vs. Roderick Strong (This Means War 10.29.2005 – ROH World Title Match) 4.59 (11 votes)
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22. Generation Next (Austin Aries, Roderick Strong, Matt Sydal & Jack Evans) vs. The Embassy (Jimmy Rave, Alex Shelley, Abyss & Prince Nana) (Steel Cage Warfare 12.3.2005 – Steel Cage Warfare Elimination Match) 4.56 (15 votes)
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24. Bryan Danielson vs. KENTA (Driven 6.23.2007) 4.53 (19 votes)
25. Bryan Danielson vs. Davey Richards (The Final Countdown Tour: Boston 9.25.2009) 4.52 (28 votes)
26. AJ Styles vs. Paul London (Night of the Grudges 6.14.2003 - #1 Contender’s Trophy Match) 4.52 (23 votes)
27. Jay and Mark Briscoe vs. CM Punk & Colt Cabana (ROH Reborn: Stage 2 4.24.2004 – ROH Tag Team Title Match) 4.52 (12 votes)
28. Samoa Joe vs. Austin Aries (Final Battle 2004 12.26.2004 – ROH World Title Match) 4.51 (27 votes)
29. Jay and Mark Briscoe vs. The Motor City Machine Guns (Good Times, Great Memories 4.28.2007 – ROH Tag Team Title Match) 4.51 (14 votes)
30. Takeshi Morishima vs. Bryan Danielson (Manhattan Mayhem II 8.25.2007 – ROH World Title Match) 4.50 (30 votes)
31. Bryan Danielson vs. Samoa Joe (Fight of the Century 8.5.2006 – ROH World Title Match) 4.50 (12 votes)
32. Kenta Kobashi & Homicide vs. Samoa Joe & Low Ki (Unforgettable 10.2.2005) 4.50 (10 votes)
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35. Eddie Edwards vs. Davey Richards (Best in the World 2011 6.26.2011 – ROH World Title Match) 4.47 (25 votes)
36. Bryan Danielson vs. Roderick Strong (Supercard of Honor 3.31.2006 – ROH World Title Match) 4.47 (11 votes)
37. Low Ki vs. Christopher Daniels vs. The American Dragon (The Era of Honor Begins 2.23.2002) 4.46 (19 votes)
38. Bryan Danielson vs. Takeshi Morishima (Final Battle 2008 12.27.2008 – Fight Without Honor) 4.46 (15 votes)
39. Eddie Edwards vs. Chris Hero (Revolution: Canada 5.7.2011 – ROH World Title Match) 4.46 (14 votes)
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49. Paul London vs. Bryan Danielson (The Epic Encounter 4.12.2003 – 2 out of 3 Falls Match) 4.40 (15 votes)
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51. Nigel McGuinness vs. Bryan Danielson (6th Anniversary Show 2.23.2008 – ROH World Title Match) 4.39 (30 votes)
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54. Jay Briscoe vs. Mark Briscoe (Fifth Year Festival: Finale 3.4.2007) 4.37 (10 votes)
55. The American Wolves vs. Adam Cole & Kyle O’Reilly (No Escape 7.9.2011) 4.36 (15 votes)
56. Nigel McGuinness vs. KENTA (7th Anniversary Show 3.21.2009 – ROH World Title Match) 4.34 (29 votes)
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58. Tyler Black vs. Davey Richards (Tag Wars 2010 8.28.2010) 4.32 (14 votes)
59. Samoa Joe vs. Homicide (Do or Die 5.31.2003 – ROH World Title Match) 4.32 (10 votes)
60. Davey Richards vs. Kenny Omega (Epic Encounter III 3.20.2010) 4.31 (24 votes)
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64. Low Ki vs. Christopher Daniels vs. Spanky vs. Doug Williams (Crowning a Champion 7.27.2002 – 60 Minute Iron Man Match for the ROH Championship) 4.30 (10 votes)
65. The Kings of Wrestling vs. Jay and Mark Briscoe (Death Before Dishonor VIII 6.19.2010 – No DQ Match for the ROH Tag Team Titles) 4.29 (36 votes)
66. Kevin Steen & Steve Corino vs. El Generico & Colt Cabana (Bitter Friends, Stiffer Enemies 2 4.24.2010 – Come-As-You-Are Street Fight) 4.29 (29 votes)
67. Nigel McGuinness vs. Austin Aries (Supercard of Honor III 3.29.2008 – ROH World Title Match) 4.29 (21 votes)
68. Homicide vs. Steve Corino (War of the Wire 11.29.2003 – No-Ropes Barbed Wire Match) 4.29 (11 votes)
69. Eddie Edwards vs. Roderick Strong (Death Before Dishonor IX 9.17.2011 – Ringmaster’s Challenge Match) 4.28 (13 votes)
70. Nigel McGuinness vs. Kevin Steen (Northern Navigation 7.25.2008 – ROH World Title Match) 4.27 (26 votes)
71. Paul London vs. Michael Shane (Unscripted 9.21.2002 – Street Fight) 4.27 (24 votes)
72. Roderick Strong vs. Eddie Edwards (Manhattan Mayhem IV 3.19.2011 – ROH World Title Match) 4.27 (21 votes)
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74. Kota Ibushi & KENTA vs. Naomichi Marufuji & Katsuhiko Nakajima (The Tokyo Summit 9.14.2008) 4.26 (19 votes)
75. Tyler Black vs. Kevin Steen (Salvation 7.24.2010 – ROH World Title Match) 4.26 (14 votes)
76. James Gibson vs. Bryan Danielson (Glory by Honor IV 9.17.2005 – ROH World Title Match) 4.23 (13 votes)
77. Samoa Joe vs. Jay Briscoe (At Our Best 3.13.2004 – Cage Match for the ROH World Title) 4.22 (23 votes)
78. Bryan Danielson & Samoa Joe vs. KENTA & Naomichi Marufuji (Best in the World 3.25.2006) 4.22 (12 votes)
79. CM Punk vs. Roderick Strong (Escape from New York 7.9.2005 – ROH World Title Match) 4.20 (15 votes)
80. AJ Styles vs. Bryan Danielson (Main Event Spectacles 11.1.2003 - #1 Contender’s Trophy Match) 4.18 (27 votes)
81. The American Dragon vs. AJ Styles (All-Star Extravaganza 11.9.2002 - #1 Contender’s Trophy Match) 4.18 (12 votes)
82. Samoa Joe vs. Takeshi Morishima (Fifth Year Festival: NYC 2.16.2007) 4.16 (12 votes)
83. CM Punk & Ace Steel vs. Dan Maff & BJ Whitmer (Death Before Dishonor II, Part 2 7.24.2004 – Chicago Street Fight) 4.15 (13 votes)
84. Jay and Mark Briscoe vs. Austin Aries & Kota Ibushi (Tag Wars 2008 4.18.2008) 4.14 (14 votes)
85. Low Ki vs. AJ Styles (Honor Invades Boston 8.24.2002 – ROH Championship Match) 4.12 (10 votes)
86. The American Wolves vs. Roderick Strong & Michael Elgin (Tag Team Turmoil 7.8.2011) 4.11 (11 votes)
87. Low Ki vs. Samoa Joe (Glory by Honor 10.5.2002 – Fight Without Honor) 4.10 (23 votes)
88. The American Wolves vs. Kevin Steen & El Generico (Glory by Honor VIII 9.26.2009 – Ladder War II for the ROH Tag Team Titles) 4.10 (19 votes)
89. Austin Aries vs. Kenny Omega (The Omega Effect 11.14.2009 – ROH World Title Match) 4.10 (14 votes)
90. Samoa Joe vs. Roderick Strong (Glory by Honor V, Night 1 9.15.2006) 4.10 (10 votes)
91. Davey Richards vs. Eddie Edwards (ROH on HDNet Ep. 55 4.26.2010 – ROH TV Title Tournament; Finals) 4.09 (13 votes)
92. The Motor City Machine Guns vs. Jimmy Jacobs & Tyler Black (Tag Wars 2008 4.18.2008) 4.08 (21 votes)
93. Roderick Strong vs. El Generico (Pick Your Poison 4.23.2010) 4.08 (21 votes)
94. Nigel McGuinness vs. Jerry Lynn (Supercard of Honor IV 4.3.2009 – ROH World Title Match) 4.06 (23 votes)
95. Austin Aries vs. Davey Richards (Aries vs. Richards 11.13.2009 – ROH World Title Match) 4.05 (28 votes)
96. Christopher Daniels vs. Eddie Edwards (9th Anniversary Show 2.26.2011 – 2 out of 3 Falls Match for the ROH Television Title) 4.03 (16 votes)
97. Christopher Daniels vs. AJ Styles (Road to the Title 6.22.2002) 4.02 (10 votes)
98. Davey Richards vs. El Generico (8th Anniversary Show 2.13.2010) 4.00 (24 votes)
99. Mitsuharu Misawa vs. KENTA (Glory by Honor VI, Night 2 11.3.2007 – GHC Heavyweight Title Match) 4.00 (21 votes)
100. Kevin Steen & El Generico vs. The American Wolves (7th Anniversary Show 3.21.2009 – No DQ Match for the ROH Tag Team Titles) 4.00 (10 votes)

**Bryan Danielson vs. Chris Sabin (Showdown in Motown) DID NOT receive enough votes to qualify to the BIG LIST**
**Survival of the Fittest Match 2005 received enough votes to make the list, but DID NOT make the RATE IT 100**

Thank to all who particicpate!

[DXvsNWO1994]

***1/2

Despite the fact this was special due to the fact that Nigel won the belt, this match disappointed me. I felt like they could have done much better.

[187_Joeism]

****1/2

[cbmtmm]

*** 1/2

[astoph]

***3/4

[JigsawVs.Jason]

****

[No Remorse]

Nigel winning the belt was special ****

[bigbuxxx]

watched this a couple weeks ago for the second time and much like the first time i was not impressed. boring match that was only notable because Nigel won the belt. **3/4. 1/4 above average because of him winning the title.

[wordsasbombs]

****

[classic-cabana]

****

[D2Kvirus]

***3/4

Their previous two matches (Fighting Spirit, Live In Tokyo) were better, and the match essentially cemented his reputation as Nigel McLariat, given he hit at least a dozen over the course of the match and bugger all else.

He deserved the belt, but should have won in a match that was booked better than being one long lariatgasm.

[EcwHardCore07]

***1/2

[donkitrk99]

****1/4
Followed the script of Joe/Kobashi - hard hitting; hot crowd

[DBSommer]

***1/2. I remember thinking that was way overkill on the lariats and he was capable of far better wrestling than that. Despite that, it was a quality match worth watching, but not *great*, for me.

[KaceCC]

***3/4

[DieHard]

***3/4

[Nigel LikesGuinness]

****

[Chaosphere]

****

[Rooskie]

***3/4

[Thumbtack Matt]

3 3/4ths

I didn't mind the lariat-fest as much as other people seem to, but the match itself was unspectacular.