Brada wrote:Hell, they better start getting Glacier lined up for when Scurll is done with Anderson.
But I'm with Sweet Daddy. I agree with bringing Anderson in............................not to wrestle Marty though.
Bring Anderson into the Dojo, so Cheeseburger and Will Ferrara can teach that no talent hack how to work.
How are they making these ridiculous decisions with a straight face?
Ken Anderson??? He won't sell a SINGLE ticket. There won't be a SINGLE person that paid to be in that audience that decided to go to the show because Mr. Whatever his name is these days is booked.
Ken Anderson and Vinny Lasagna on the same card, now there is a toss up for who sends the fans to the hot dog line quicker.
Mr. Mojo Risin wrote:...and I might add when monster mafia is shitting on Delirious, you know the ship is sinking.
Roque 11 has to enlighten us that this is the greatest signing since Vince stole Giant Gonzales from WCW.
TowerOfDoom wrote:First Sonjay Dutt, now Mr Anderson. This reminds me of Roderick Strongs "Roddy vs The World" thing when he was champ from 2015-16
Ever since we had that ticket thread a while back and someone on here showed how to backwards calculate how many tickets for each show were left/sold (aka go to the ticket website and count), I peak at the sales. Both Unauthorized and Masters of the Craft have been selling, well. On Sunday Morning, it looked like there were, by my count, 78 non-GA tickets left for Masters of the Craft. That number is down to 31. I'm not saying Anderson sold those 47 tickets (and whatever general admission tickets were sold) but I would wager at least one, if not more than one, person bought a ticket to see him.
Those are $25 tickets that are left. 47 tickets sold at $25, before whomever takes their cut, is $1175. If I read correctly, he's a MN guy now so they're probably not paying trans or hotel. He's probably worth the money as a one-time attraction if he gets ROH over the finish line and sells out the building.
With all that said, I saw a tweet, I think from VOW, that said the ROH of the past has been gone for 8 years. I think that is the key to remember. Even back when "the old ROH" was around, they'd bring in a name or two to pop a house or even run with a title (Jerry Lynn, anyone?). But now, more than ever, the key is reaching out to those more casual fans who aren't on the internet but watch every week on their local affiliates. Or those that see "WRESTLING" on a poster or Facebook post and whose curiosity is piqued. Realistically, Anderson has been on national TV on and off for the better part of the last 12 or 13 years and he's local - he'll sell some tickets and probably already has.
Brada wrote:I agree that Ken Anderson isn't the worst wrestler in the world, however, he is FAR from the type of worker that ROH has built their foundation on.
I stand corrected on my original ticket statement, maybe he has accounted for some extra business. Fair enough.
I will say this though. Find me ONE, ONE single person in the building that night that believes that Anderson has a 1% chance of winning the match.
You will be looking all night long. The fact that Marty Scurll, who was supposedly a key signee less than 6 months ago, a guy that you threw the TV title on in his first weekend with the company, is already working a guy like Ken Anderson, is an absolute JOKE.
In regards to "recognizable names" that ROH has brought in the past, I would throw Mr.Whatever his name is now right in the group with Bushwacker Luke.
No, I'm not kidding.
Bushwacker Luke was a recognizable name when he was brought in to work with Grizzly Redwood. Bushwacker Luke put a hell of a lot more asses in seats that Mr.Whatever his name ever did.
I just don't get this one. My issue isn't so much with bringing him in as it is with pairing him with Scurll.
FanSinceHDNet wrote:I would wager that we're a very small minority of the ROH fan base. And I would wager that the recent surprises have added the element that anything can happen on these ROH shows that even some of the smarter can buy into.
I would furthermore wager that Marty Scurll is a big-time talent that ROH sees potential in and wouldn't want to waste the allure of him vs. Lethal, Daniels, Cody, etc. first-time matches on VOD shows in Minnesota. I would wager beyond that that Ken Anderson's accolades in the eyes of more casual fans stick out. Scurll absolutely gets one of the biggest reactions of anyone on the ROH cards. Why book yourself into a corner in a VOD match with two guys you don't want to lose? Or why waste it if you know the audience will be limited? That'd be a dumb business decision if you'd do something with him to a finish - unless its a schmozz to set up something on TV or PPV (which, they have been doing well with lately incorporating the VOD shows into the PPV/TV builds) or it is an audible when fortune throws you something you can't say no to in your lap (the Hardys), then you're throwing money out the window.
Secondly, this board complains when stars leave and don't put anyone over on the way out. Booking has Dijak, Rush, Cole etc. put over Scurll on the way out when a large majority of the fans have no idea that these folks are on the way out. Who do you want them fed to? They're doing the right thing, going out on their backs. Scurll reaps the rewards, especially in the eyes of ROH's target audience, Joe Schmoe with two kids in Cedar Rapids, picking up wins over these stars. I would wager, again, that smart fans make up only a very small portion of ROH's audience. And I would bet that very few even realized Dijak hasn't been on TV since his loss to Scurll.
The dreaded six month opt-out would be the War of the Worlds Tour and he's listed for those events. They have given him wins over just about everyone. I would agree that beyond the Rush series that he has not had a proper program but the spoilers from Baltimore seem to indicate they are setting up another one for him. I thought the build for his upcoming match against Kaz was built quite well, too, making it three programs he will have completed or taken part in in six months. Not too bad.
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