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You think they're going to feud again? Honestly, I can't see it...

when tana/Okada had their last match the stip was that it was Tana's last chance at Okada during his title reign if he lost. so they kept that stip and it's been 10 months since they had a match. It's not the freshest match they could do but it's probably the biggest. with only 2 days to advertise the offical main event at the Seibu Dome, it makes perfect sense they'd headline with Tanahashi/Okada. should be a great match

DXvsNWO1994 wrote:You think they're going to feud again? Honestly, I can't see it...

Look at every great Japanese rivalry. Pretty much all of them get revisited.

At some point in 2015 or 2016 one of them will be holding the belt for a prolonged period. Don't see why they wouldn't let the other challenge.

I would like to see Tanahashi/Styles in some form.

Voices of Wrestling star ratings:

Honma vs. Kojima ***
Fale vs. Smith **1/4
Naito vs. Tenzan ***3/4
Anderson vs. Suzuki ***1/4
Yano vs. Makabe 1/2*
Takahashi vs. Styles ***1/4
Archer vs. Okada ***3/4
Nagata vs. Tanahashi ***3/4
Shibata vs. Ishii ****1/2
Nakamura vs. Gallows ***1/2

Next batch of Meltzer's ***+ ratings

July 31 in Hamamatsu:
Yugi Nagata vs. Davey Boy Smith, Jr. ***
Satoshi Kojima vs. Katsuyori Shibata ***3/4
Hirooki Goto vs. Karl Anderson ***3/4
Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Shelton Benjamin ***1/4
AJ Styles vs. Hiroyoshi Tenzan ***1/2
Toru Yano vs. Kazuchika Okada ***1/4
Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Tomohiro Ishii ****1/2

August 1 @ Korakuen Hall:
Satoshi Kojima vs. Shelton Benjamin ***1/4
Hirooki Goto vs. Hiroyoshi Tenzan ****1/2
Bad Luck Fale vs. Tomoaki Honma ***1/2
Togi Makabe vs. Tetsuya Naito ****1/4
AJ Styles vs. Minoru Suzuki ****3/4
Yuji Nagata vs. Katsuyori Shibata ****1/2
Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Tomohiro Ishii ****3/4

August 3 in Osaka:
Tomohiro Ishii vs. Davey Boy Smith, Jr. ****1/4
Yuji Nagata vs. Shelton Benjamin ***3/4
Doc Gallows vs. Satoshi Kojima ***1/4
Hirooki Goto vs. Tetsuya Naito ****1/4
AJ Styles vs. Lance Archer ***3/4
Togi Makabe vs. Minoru Suzuki ****
Tomoaki Honma vs. Katsuyori Shibata ****3/4
Yujiro Takahashi vs. Kazuchika Okada ***1/2
Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Shinsuke Nakamura ****1/2

August 4 in Nagoya:
Tomoaki Honma vs. Davey Boy Smith, Jr. ***1/4
Minoru Suzuki vs. Tetsuya Naito ***1/2
Satoshi Kojima vs. Shinsuke Nakamura ***3/4
AJ Styles vs. Karl Anderson ***3/4
Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Shelton Benjamin ***1/4
Hirooki Goto vs. Kazuchika Okada ****1/2

Night 10 Review:

1.) Block A - Tomoaki Honma vs. Satoshi Kojima: ***
2.) Block A - Bad Luck Fale vs. Davey Boy Smith Jr.: **1/4
3.) Block B - Tetsuya Naito vs. Hiroyoshi Tenzan: ***3/4
4.) Block B - Karl Anderson vs. Minoru Suzuki: ***1/4
5.) Block B - Toru Yano vs. Togi Makabe: *1/2
6.) Block B - Yujiro Takahashi vs. AJ Styles: ***
7.) Block B - Lance Archer vs. Kazuchika Okada: ***3/4
8.) Block A - Yuji Nagata vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi: ***3/4
9.) Block A - Katsuyori Shibata vs. Tomohiro Ishii: ****1/4
10.) Block A - Doc Gallows vs. Shinsuke Nakamura: ***1/4

ROHFan25 wrote:

Spoiler: show

Okada vs Nakamura Finals and AJ vs Tanahashi 3rd place, just like I predicted. MOTYC X 2. Seibu Dome. YES!

I thought it would be this as well, although my feelings started to change when Nakamura & Tanahashi were still tied, but what happened on today's show confirmed my original picks.

I'm so excited for the Finals! It's the biggest match they could possibly do and I think they are going to have two great matches. I also don't know who's going to win. I didn't think we were getting Naka vs Okada until the Tokyo Dome so I assumed whichever one of those guys got to the finals would win but now I have no idea. I am going to stay up and watch it live after getting home from the Philly ROH Show.

I also think Honma will get his victory during the Finals Show. It will be an even bigger pop with a huge crowd at the Seibu Dome.

I have a feeling Styles vs. Tanahashi II will surpass their first match a little bit. Just a hunch.

Mr. Orange wrote:I also think Honma will get his victory during the Finals Show. It will be an even bigger pop with a huge crowd at the Seibu Dome.

Can't see them putting him over Naito. Naito is likely due for a title shot after beating Styles.

Here's the full card for the Seibu Dome Show:

http://www.njpw.co.jp/english/match/card.php?e=872

final standings...

A Block...

1) Shinsuke Nakamura... 8-2... 16 pts
2) Hiroshi Tanahashi... 7-3... 14 pts
3) Bad Luck Fale... 6-4... 12 pts
4) Katsuyori Shibata... 6-4... 12 pts
t5) Satoshi Kojima... 5-5... 10 pts
t5) Tomohiro Ishii... 5-5... 10 pts
t5) Davey Boy Smith Jr... 5-5... 10 pts
t5) Shelton Benjamin... 5-5... 10 pts
9) Doc Gallows... 4-6... 8 pts
10) Yuji Nagata... 4-6... 8 pts... recent GHC champ jobbed out nicely
11) Tomoaki Honma... 0-10... 0 pts

B Block...

1) Kazuchika Okada... 8-2... 16 pts
2) AJ Styles... 8-2... 16 pts
t3) Minoru Suzuki... 5-5... 10 pts
t3) Tetsuya Naito... 5-5... 10 pts
t3) Karl Anderson... 5-5... 10 pts
t6) Toru Yano... 4-6... 8 pts ... did comedy stiff Yano really need 4 wins?
t6) Hiroyoshi Tenzan... 4-6... 8 pts
t6) Yujiro Takahashi... 4-6... 8 pts
t6) Lance Archer... 4-6... 8 pts
t6) Hirooki Goto... 4-6... 8 pts
t6) Togi Makabe... 4-6... 8 pts

amazing gedo/jado could only find winning records for 6 of 22 guys. that's the problem with their b.s parity booking.

day 11... very good show. could have been one of the better shows with a hotter crowd which we didn't really get

Honma vs benjamin ***1/2 Very unrewarding as a Honma mark for him to go 0-10. what a fuckin joke. no way he deserved that
Yano vs Yujiro *1/4
Goto vs Archer ***1/4
Naito vs Anderson ***3/4
Nagata vs Ishii ***3/4
Shibata vs Gallows ***1/4
Nakamura vs Fale ****
Styles vs Makabe ***3/4
Tanahashi vs DBS Jr ***3/4 ordinary start, great last 5 mins or so
Okada vs Suzuki ****

best shows based on my match ratings averaged out. there were some ties in match ratings so I went with the card I enjoyed better. averages can be skewed with a Yano 1/2* match etc

11) Day 3... 2.8 *
10) Day 6... 2.9 *
9) Day 10... 3 *
8) Day 1... 3 *
7) Day 9... 3.4*
6) Day 11... 3.4 *
5) Day 5... 3.4 *
4) Day 8... 3.4*
3) Day 4... 3.5 *
2) Day 2... 3.6 *
1) Day 7... 3.7 *

My overall pre tournament predictions finished at an unimpressive 67-43 (61%)

average match rating rankings a.k.a. top performers of the tournament

22) Toru Yano -- 2.1 *
21) Yujiro takahashi -- 2.85 *
20) Shelton Benjamin -- 2.93 *
19) Tenzan -- 2.98
18) Doc Gallows -- 3 *
17) Togi Makabe -- 3.03 * working through broken jaw
16) Minoru Suzuki -- 3.08 * Slow start cost him, he certainly picked it up.
15) Bad Luck Fale -- 3.13 *
14) Davey Boy Smith Jr -- 3.18 *
13) Satoshi Kojima -- 3.2 *
12) Hirooki Goto -- 3.23 *
11) Lance Archer -- 3.23*
10) Yuji Nagata -- 3.3 *
9) Karl Anderson -- 3.38 *
8) Kazuchika Okada -- 3.5 *
7) Tetsuya Naito -- 3.55 *
6) Shinsuke Nakamura -- 3.58 *
t4) Tomohiro Ishii -- 3.65 * working through shoulder injury
t4) Katsuyori Shibata -- 3.65 *
t2) Hiroshi Tanahashi -- 3.78 *
t2) AJ Styles -- 3.78 *
1) Tomoaki Honma-- 3.83 *

Notes...

Honma wins this for me. I had 3 of his matches rated **** 1/4 and one at **** 3/4. His worst match was Day 3 vs Gallows which still got ***.

Of AJ Style's 10 matches, amazingly I have all of them rated above *** 1/2 stars. Highlight was ****1/2 vs Suzuki. 2 other **** matches too.

Tanahashi surprised me slightly that he was ahead of Ishii/Shibata. His consistency was very good. Two matches at *** 1/4 were his "worst". 3 matches at **** or better.

I love Ishii, what a warrior he is. He's still the favorite to win 2014 Most Outstanding wrestler to this point. We'll see what his fitness level is the rest of the year though? injuries may hurt his chances if an AJ Styles or Honma or Okada come on strong

my top 10 matches of the tourny

10) Styles/Okada (Day 1) ****
9) Styles/Archer (Day 8) ****
8) Makabe/Anderson (day 2) ****1/4
7) Ishii/Nakamura (Day 7) ****1/4
6) Ishii/Honma (Day 4) ****1/4
5) Nagata/Honma (Day 2) ****1/4
4) Tanahashi/Nakamura (Day 8) ****1/2
3) Tanahashi/Shibata (Day 4) ****1/2
2) Styles/Suzuki (Day 7) ****1/2
1) Honma/Shibata (Day 8) ****3/4

basically impossible to narrow down an exact top 10 but there you go. several matches more were at **** or better and several other ****3/4 that were very strong too.


10 worst matches of the tourny. only 10 i have less than **1/2 stars too

10) Nakamura/Benjamin (Day 6) **1/4 I don't remember this match but I have written down Benjamin's german's looked like shit. Weird flow, no transitions or selling , rushed
9) Tenzan/Yujiro (Day 3) **1/4
8) Gallows/Fale (Day 6) **1/4
7) Yujiro/Makabe (Day 6) **1/4 Makabe had been doing the exact same matches at this point, only this time it was Yujiro who was worse than the other opponents
6) Tenzan/Yano (Day 8) ** ref bump. Yano tapped but ref was down. Yano tried a chair shot that was countered, very awkward ref sorta saw but wasn't supposed to. quick and not well executed
5) Goto/Yano (Day 4) *3/4 Quick low blow finish as usual. Sure did Goto no favors with this result
4) Davey Boy/Fale (Day 10) *3/4 Not good when you hear people making fun of your match. I've heard a few. Only comment I have for this match was "grenade looked like shit as a finish"
3) Yujiro/Yano (Day 11) *1/4 Yujiro kickout at 1 of low blow to 0 reaction. Pretty dumb. he had a cup on which I've seen before and it was better
2) Yano/Suzuki (Day 1) 3/4* In hindsight this wasn't that bad. The crowd was in shock when Yano won so quickly. I was down on the match coming into the show because they wrestle every show and it's always the same. I thought then and do now that the result was dumb too. The best part was that it was over quickly
1) Yano/Makabe (Day 10) 1/2* Short and pointless. Having comedy Yano beat supposed tough guy Makabe was a pretty dumb result