WWN/EVOLVE Thread

[Sandy Fork]

Gabe almost down right bragging about having PWG DVDs for sale is laughable.

I was thinking the same thing when I read the news wire.


The China shows look dope, though. Too bad they'll never be on DVD....

At least the August Evolve reboot shows went in production right away.

Production doesn't take this long. PWG has their shows shipping on DVD one month after shooting roughly. Same with every other indy of Gabe's size.

[Ladrao12]

^ Word.

I'd even go as far to say that indies that draw less than Gabe, partner with Highspots and SmartMark and get their shows out. It's embarassing.

[Sandy Fork]

Was DVD production this slow when Gabe ran ROH?

Or is he somehow cursed to be unable to make a company grow beyond a certain point. This just makes WWN look unprofessional.

[Thelone]

Or they could just use their network like WWE's. No one's gonna pay $15 for a replay of a two year old show Shine show, but I would gladly pay $10/month to have access to every WWN show, even if it's on a slight 2-3 months delay.

[JustSkiff]

I think the idea is to eventually do a network type deal. I would think it would be similar to the wrestling is subscription.

[isles11]

DGUSA Open The United Gate Title Match
Trent Baretta & Caleb Konley defend vs. Fire Ant & Silver Ant

Have I missed something? I thought Neese won the belts with Konley not Trent. Trent was injured and not even on that show.

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Was DVD production this slow when Gabe ran ROH?

Or is he somehow cursed to be unable to make a company grow beyond a certain point. This just makes WWN look unprofessional.

It wasn't too bad. We had to wait a couple months tops. It wasn't nearly as bad as DGUSA is.

[DXvsNWO1994]

DGUSA Open The United Gate Title Match
Trent Baretta & Caleb Konley defend vs. Fire Ant & Silver Ant

Have I missed something? I thought Neese won the belts with Konley not Trent. Trent was injured and not even on that show.

Trent Baretta was recently announced for the next PWG Show on December 12th. I'm guessing he must have healed up from his injury a lot sooner than expected, because I heard he would be out for 6 Months to a Year.

As far as the Open The United Gate Titles go, I'm guessing they're using the Freebird Rule.

[Ladrao12]

I think Nese might be booked elsewhere the weekend after the Evolve shows take place and couldn't make it, so Baretta is booked, free bird rules, i'm all for it.

I just wonder if they book like that going forward, or if it's just time one time out of necessity?

[DXvsNWO1994]

I just wonder if they book like that going forward, or if it's just time one time out of necessity?

With The Premiere Athlete Brand, you mean? I wouldn't mind it, personally. We'd get some diversity in those Open The United Gate Title Matches, plus free up whoever the third guy is for a singles match.

[classic-cabana]

If he aint shilling DVDs, how can he expect to pay the bills?

[Ladrao12]

I just wonder if they book like that going forward, or if it's just time one time out of necessity?

With The Premiere Athlete Brand, you mean? I wouldn't mind it, personally. We'd get some diversity in those Open The United Gate Title Matches, plus free up whoever the third guy is for a singles match.

I'd like it as well if they played by the Freebird rules. It seemed like the PAB was going to get a tag title run, and it was probably going to be Nese and Baretta who got the belts, but Konleys improvement of late makes me want to see Nese/Konley as the Tag, with Baretta going after the Evolve title.

[supersonic]

WWN in San Jose 3/27 and 3/28. Galloway confirmed.

[DXvsNWO1994]

Hopefully we get to see Dragon Gate guys back in the US by then...

[Kenny]

I just wonder if they book like that going forward, or if it's just time one time out of necessity?

With The Premiere Athlete Brand, you mean? I wouldn't mind it, personally. We'd get some diversity in those Open The United Gate Title Matches, plus free up whoever the third guy is for a singles match.

I'd like it as well if they played by the Freebird rules. It seemed like the PAB was going to get a tag title run, and it was probably going to be Nese and Baretta who got the belts, but Konleys improvement of late makes me want to see Nese/Konley as the Tag, with Baretta going after the Evolve title.

Barretta v Galloway.... DUDE! That sounds epic!

[Sandy Fork]

Woke up in time to catch the second half of Dragon Gate's Gate of Destiny show. Really liked it. Every match was good. Tozawa was in the best shape of his life and on fire.

Spoiler: show

When is it going to be Tozawa's time though?

[Memphis Mark]

Was DVD production this slow when Gabe ran ROH?

Or is he somehow cursed to be unable to make a company grow beyond a certain point. This just makes WWN look unprofessional.

The I understood it is that Sal owns the DVD/ IPPV company , not Gabe. Sal does not want to produce DVDS , he thinks that IPPV is the way to go and the time of DVDS has past . So. Sal refuses to put money into DVD production . Sal has also put a lot of capital into the WWN streaming business . So Gabe has to go along with Sal because he is the money man.

[Sandy Fork]

Does that excuse cutting off the fairly large part of the fanbase that still wants DVDs tho?
Hell, WWE Still sell DVDs (and they sell well from what I gather) and if the industry standard does that, why should a smaller one cut them off?

Not everyone, especially in the united states, has an internet connection that can handle streaming.

[Memphis Mark]

I agree with you .Not producing DVDS was been a major mistake for the WWN . DVDs are still a profit center for wrestling companies .That is why PWG , Chikara and even CZW are larger than Evolve/ DGUSA. I still prefer purchasing a DVD over IPPV/ PPV .

However Sal has invested his money in the Roku channel and IPPV equipment.. Speaking for myself , I don't follow Evolve because of the lack of dvds. Some people are so concern with the future that they forget we live in the present .

[DXvsNWO1994]

New Video that includes the updated Evolve Rankings: