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Here's what PWInsider had to say about AR Fox's Injury & other things...
AR Fox is out of action after suffering a pretty severe concussion from a kick delivered by Trevor Lee on Saturday 1/10 at EVOLVE 37. The punt kick, delivered while Lee was on the apron and charging at Fox, who was standing on the floor, was brutal enough that it caused Fox to chip several teeth when he bit down from the force of the kick and needs dental work done as a nerve in one of the teeth is exposed. EVOLVE immediately stopped the match once it was obvious there was something wrong. Fox underwent a CATscan and will be seeing a concussion specialist this week. He's likely not going to return to the ring for at least a few weeks.

Moose and The Bravados finished up this past weekend. It was a case of the company freshening up the roster as opposed to heat or any of them doing something wrong. Moose is signed with ROH so he'll be there going forward. The Bravados' run here was really, really something as they've turned into pretty damn good workers after their European tours.

Although it's expected he will be signing with WWE, Uhaa Nation is scheduled for the next set of WWNLive.com shows.

Gabe Sapolsky noted that beyond the Fox injury, which he "absolutely hated seeing happen", WWNLive.com was thrilled with the weekend. The company stuck with it's new format of six matches a show with everything having the time to mean something and stand out.

Lots of raves for Timothy Thatcher's work against Ricochet and Roderick Strong over the weekend. Thatcher has also signed a contract extension here. They ran an angle over the weekend where Thatcher and Biff Busick each issued challenges for Chris Hero for Wrestlemania week, so that's the direction they are going.

Former TNA star So Cal Val debuted over the weekend and will be a regular here, working with Tony Nese's Premier Athlete Brand stable.
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Robareid wrote:They could perhaps get away with it by having Moose no longer associated with the Bravados but the two Bravados still as a team.

Moose and the Bravados are done with WWN . I went to the Nashville TV tapings and their were two masked wrestlers in the crowd. The two were also wearing full length robes. No way you could guess their identify . Think we know now.
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I'd totally be down with the Bravados returning to ROH. Never understood why they were released in the first place.
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Memphis Mark wrote:
Robareid wrote:They could perhaps get away with it by having Moose no longer associated with the Bravados but the two Bravados still as a team.

Moose and the Bravados are done with WWN . I went to the Nashville TV tapings and their were two masked wrestlers in the crowd. The two were also wearing full length robes. No way you could guess their identify . Think we know now.
Woah, first I've heard of this. When did it happen?
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The mystery men appeared in the crowd for one match during the Nashville taping. At the time I had no clue who was under the hoods. Now it makes sense that the Bravados might be coming home. Could be someone else ? Who knows for sure.The footage has not aired yet.
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Memphis Mark wrote:The mystery men appeared in the crowd for one match during the Nashville taping. At the time I had no clue who was under the hoods. Now it makes sense that the Bravados might be coming home. Could be someone else ? Who knows for sure.The footage has not aired yet.
If you want to, you can say which match & episode in the spoiler thread for those TV Tapings in the Spoilers Section.

I'd be fine with The Bravados being back in ROH. Like Robareid said, I never understood why they were let go in the first place.
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I think the Bravados were let go because they were green and not improving all that much when they were with ROH. They were 2 scrawny brothers who were OK workers, and OK wrestlers. For me, it wasn't until they went to NOAH and came back that they showed a lot of potential. Gained some size, work rate got better, complete image change.
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Ladrao12 wrote:I think the Bravados were let go because they were green and not improving all that much when they were with ROH. They were 2 scrawny brothers who were OK workers, and OK wrestlers. For me, it wasn't until they went to NOAH and came back that they showed a lot of potential. Gained some size, work rate got better, complete image change.
I agree, pre-NOAH they were completely forgettable but once they got back they had improved a ton and they have just gotten better sense then and ROH needs tag teams so I'd be all for them coming back.
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But they were released after they came back from NOAH.
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Robareid wrote:But they were released after they came back from NOAH.
Probably for the same reason they didn't find a home anywhere after they were released: they were never over with anyone. PWG didn't bring them around. Neither did AAW or AIW. Or even CZW. PWX finally hired them a few times a few months back, but since they were actually based in the Carolinas you'd think a pair of hometown boys would have been sought after earlier than that. When Gabe brought them in for someone to unseat the Bucks, no one got excited for them there either, and they were the champs. I remember seeing them in their last ROH match against the newly created team of Fish and O'Reilly, and no one cared then either. So ROH were hardly the only ones who didn't see them as the future of their promotion.
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Not directly related to Evolve, but since it is FIP related I figured this was the best thread to use for this.

So Teddy Hart worked the FIP shows this weekend....whilst being hunted by the police. What for?

Repeated sexual assault on two women. (Classy Teddy).

Wonder what Sal was thinking when booking this.

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Sandy Fork wrote:Not directly related to Evolve, but since it is FIP related I figured this was the best thread to use for this.

So Teddy Hart worked the FIP shows this weekend....whilst being hunted by the police. What for?

Repeated sexual assault on two women. (Classy Teddy).

Wonder what Sal was thinking when booking this.

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Yeah I don't get why you'd book somebody who's on the run from the law.
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The question is why would you book Teddy Hart to begin with?
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DXvsNWO1994 wrote:
Yeah I don't get why you'd book somebody who's on the run from the law.
If you're smart, you call the police to pick him up right after the match and you don't have to pay him. :)

And speaking of which, here was when Billy Travis was arrested in the middle of a wrestling show


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qux-mAFo3OM
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I watched both shows yesterday after work. I'll just copy and paste my thoughts from another forum that I post on.

A few notes:

I was shocked by the amount of people in the Orpheum for 36. The venue on camera doesn't look like it holds that many people but once Drew and Roddy went out of the ring there was actually a decent amount of people seated in the venue. The Winter park venue looks cooler with the bleachers and if it could be filled up with a bit more people will also look good on camera. But that's something for Evolve to work on long term.

Content wise. Both shows delivered. 36 felt like more of the kickstart show and 37 was a vehicle to set up some big matches for Mania weekend, but both nights delivered.
The best matches in my mind from 36 was Drew vs Roddy (I could watch those two pummel each other to shit anytime), Ricochet vs Thatcher and Busick vs Lee. And the best matches from 37 was Busick vs Uhaa, Drew vs Ricochet and Thatcher vs Strong. The Ronin reunion was also a good one, especially if you were around during the original Ronin run.

Other notes from the events: Galloway is a stud. As long as Gabe has access to him he should build Evolve around him. He's big, charismatic, athletic and he is on fire. Evolve and ICW seem like his two main focuses right now and I hope it continues, because he has done a lot of good for Evolve so far. Easily the best world champ in Evolve history(well, the only world champion). It was also fun to see how much the Ronin boys have grown over the years. They started out as comedy undercard guys and are now the cocks of the walk so to speak. Now all I need is the PAB back at full force and I'll be happy.

Definitely a good start to 2015 for Evolve.
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Sandy Fork wrote:Easily the best world champ in Evolve history(well, the only world champion).
Fox & Hero?

I definitely agree though, best champ thus far.
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Ladrao12 wrote:
Sandy Fork wrote:Easily the best world champ in Evolve history(well, the only world champion).
Fox & Hero?

I definitely agree though, best champ thus far.
The belt didn't receive world title status until Drew took it abroad. Fox & Hero were just Evolve Champion. Drew is the first Evolve World Champion.

Kind of like how Orton is considered the first unified WWE World heavyweight champ. At least that is how I see it.
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Sandy Fork wrote:
Ladrao12 wrote:
Sandy Fork wrote:Easily the best world champ in Evolve history(well, the only world champion).
Fox & Hero?

I definitely agree though, best champ thus far.
The belt didn't receive world title status until Drew took it abroad. Fox & Hero were just Evolve Champion. Drew is the first Evolve World Champion.

Kind of like how Orton is considered the first unified WWE World heavyweight champ. At least that is how I see it.
Ehhhh, I still see him as the 3rd champ. He's defending it worldwide, and that's fantastic, but it doesn't change the lineage for me.
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Ladrao12 wrote: Ehhhh, I still see him as the 3rd champ. He's defending it worldwide, and that's fantastic, but it doesn't change the lineage for me.
The lineage hasn't changed. Drew just upgraded the belt. You can call all three Evolve champion. But only Drew can be called World champion
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Ladrao12 wrote: Ehhhh, I still see him as the 3rd champ. He's defending it worldwide, and that's fantastic, but it doesn't change the lineage for me.
The lineage hasn't changed. Drew just upgraded the belt. You can call all three Evolve champion. But only Drew can be called World champion
It's like when Samoa Joe defended the ROH Title against Zebra Kid. He successfully defended it overseas in the UK, and thus the title was upgraded to World Title status.
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