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famicommander wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:49 pm

Reaper G wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:44 pm

famicommander wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:01 pm

All four shows have done something this calendar year at least as stupid as Samoa Joe getting kidnapped by ECW ninjas.

What, pray tell, has NXT done that was that dumb?

Karen Q is a 1000 year old Chinese mythological character for one.

Dave Meltzer reported on exact wording from a memo that was sent out about the changes, “‘No more midgets, no one starting in their 30’s.’ They want people that can be box office attractions and main characters.”

famicommander wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:46 pm

Dave Meltzer reported on exact wording from a memo that was sent out about the changes, “‘No more midgets, no one starting in their 30’s.’ They want people that can be box office attractions and main characters.”

roacheyyy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:05 am I nearly fell off my chair when McAfee said she was the current Impact Women's Champion

tigermask7.0 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:47 pm With one sentence, wwe just dragged you jojo's back into the fold.

Montana wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:42 am I'll admit it... i still watch/follow WWE. (Long ramble...sorry)

While i dislike the same of what many others do about the WWE (stale booking, repetitive matches; 3 hours Raw wtf, bigger guys getting pushes, cutting 100+ people)

I'm not going to waste my time; stating how WWE needs to change. They suck, blah blah blah. They either will/wont change; and it's clear they are going to keep doing what they are doing.

WWE has quietly been tightening things up since 2019 with AEW coming on board in my opinion. Roman Reigns is the dominant star; #1 draw. Brock is Brock.... but having fun; and happy to be there , which is nice. They've built up Bobby Lashley, BIg E and Drew Mcintyre in Legit main eventers. Rated RK-Bro is a great tag team; and the best Orton has been in years. Uso's have improved as well. They actually DO episodic booking; so like they have angles ; that progress week by week; often ending in about a month. They've been using guys like Seth, Kevin Owens, Sami Zayn, and AJ Styles in a bigger way; and also helping build newer talent. Edge is back. Pat Mcafee is great. WWE has great video packages, i love their PPV's are essentially free; with peacock. WWE Network is great for free. Enjoy their documentaries and interviews on the network. (Brock/Sami was lots of fun; but i was hoping they would shoot an angle with Brock abducting Sami and taking him to his neck of the woods to hunt) .... OH and Sheamus... If you haven't been watching; he's been putting on banger matches for like the last year. He's been great; and probably a future world champion again. (Alpha Academy as well have been doing some good stuff)

They hit the reset on NXT; and while many dislike it; i think in the long run they'll be better off. They had 5-10 Superstars waiting in the wings; while AEW paid up for the Undisputed Era, Punk, Danielson; they have guys like Bron Breaker, Harland, Carmelo, Grayson Waller, Tony D, the Creed Brothers just sitting in the wings, for a fraction of the cost. Probably a few others i'm forgetting.

Yes; there's tons of negatives with WWE; but it's not half as bad as the IWC claims it to be. There wouldn't be over double the amount of people watching Smackdown over Dynamite still; if it's a bad as people make it out to be.

AEW is doing good things as well. I feel like they harder to please the fans; which many fans like. The match quality is very good. I think i actually prefer WWEs booking style in some ways; over AEW... as odd as that seems. Like take Andrade or Jay Lethal for example.... Like at least Andrade was ON raw; almost weekly. Your lucky if you see an Andrade match every 4-6 weeks in AEW. Or Jay Lethal; wrestler of the decade; first to the TBS champ night 1; then zero follow up. Countless meaningless squash matches. At least WWE has matches; that are good match ups; even if it's the 2nd/3rd time we've seen it. I do like AEW's long term booking for the most part; although it makes things very predictable. Not to make this an AEW vs WWE thing. I just like them both for different reasons.

Reaper G wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 8:34 pm

Montana wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:42 am I'll admit it... i still watch/follow WWE. (Long ramble...sorry)

While i dislike the same of what many others do about the WWE (stale booking, repetitive matches; 3 hours Raw wtf, bigger guys getting pushes, cutting 100+ people)

I'm not going to waste my time; stating how WWE needs to change. They suck, blah blah blah. They either will/wont change; and it's clear they are going to keep doing what they are doing.

WWE has quietly been tightening things up since 2019 with AEW coming on board in my opinion. Roman Reigns is the dominant star; #1 draw. Brock is Brock.... but having fun; and happy to be there , which is nice. They've built up Bobby Lashley, BIg E and Drew Mcintyre in Legit main eventers. Rated RK-Bro is a great tag team; and the best Orton has been in years. Uso's have improved as well. They actually DO episodic booking; so like they have angles ; that progress week by week; often ending in about a month. They've been using guys like Seth, Kevin Owens, Sami Zayn, and AJ Styles in a bigger way; and also helping build newer talent. Edge is back. Pat Mcafee is great. WWE has great video packages, i love their PPV's are essentially free; with peacock. WWE Network is great for free. Enjoy their documentaries and interviews on the network. (Brock/Sami was lots of fun; but i was hoping they would shoot an angle with Brock abducting Sami and taking him to his neck of the woods to hunt) .... OH and Sheamus... If you haven't been watching; he's been putting on banger matches for like the last year. He's been great; and probably a future world champion again. (Alpha Academy as well have been doing some good stuff)

They hit the reset on NXT; and while many dislike it; i think in the long run they'll be better off. They had 5-10 Superstars waiting in the wings; while AEW paid up for the Undisputed Era, Punk, Danielson; they have guys like Bron Breaker, Harland, Carmelo, Grayson Waller, Tony D, the Creed Brothers just sitting in the wings, for a fraction of the cost. Probably a few others i'm forgetting.

Yes; there's tons of negatives with WWE; but it's not half as bad as the IWC claims it to be. There wouldn't be over double the amount of people watching Smackdown over Dynamite still; if it's a bad as people make it out to be.

AEW is doing good things as well. I feel like they harder to please the fans; which many fans like. The match quality is very good. I think i actually prefer WWEs booking style in some ways; over AEW... as odd as that seems. Like take Andrade or Jay Lethal for example.... Like at least Andrade was ON raw; almost weekly. Your lucky if you see an Andrade match every 4-6 weeks in AEW. Or Jay Lethal; wrestler of the decade; first to the TBS champ night 1; then zero follow up. Countless meaningless squash matches. At least WWE has matches; that are good match ups; even if it's the 2nd/3rd time we've seen it. I do like AEW's long term booking for the most part; although it makes things very predictable. Not to make this an AEW vs WWE thing. I just like them both for different reasons.

You're not the only WWE watcher here. Yes, it's fun to rip on Vince and his product, but there really are good wrestlers, personalities, matches, and storylines on Raw and Smackdown despite his oft-bizarre vision of "sports entertainment."

I do have reservations about NXT 2.0. To play devil's advocate, NXT was originally supposed to be a developmental brand, and HHH turned it into his version of ROH. And it was great. But he wasn't necessarily prepping those guys for the main roster, and losing the ratings war to AEW Dynamite has given Vince a chance to return it to its roots. To be sure, there are great talents there, and I want to follow their careers like I have Danielson, Punk, Joe, Steen, Generico, Black, and others who have become future Hall of Famers. But cutting so many veterans, as wrestlers and coaches, will limit how good Breakker, Wagner, Waller, et al may be.