Re: The WWE Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:02 pm
Luke Harper gets no love.supersonic wrote:WWE decides to one-up Scurll vs. Mr. Kennedy for a Chicago PPV.
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Luke Harper gets no love.supersonic wrote:WWE decides to one-up Scurll vs. Mr. Kennedy for a Chicago PPV.
Mike Bennett and Maria, formerly of TNA and ROH, are headed to WWE’s main roster, according to PWTorch sources. A return to Impact Wrestling was a possibility, but WWE’s offer more appealing. They are expected to land on Smackdown.
Very low bar. WWE doesn't have real heels, only failed faces that get booed for the wrong reasons.Brada wrote:Next to Kevin Owens, Miz is the best heel WWE has.
Absolutely the stupidest name of a PPV. Ever. Vince needs to be declared legally incompetent. Now.Mike Adamle wrote:Are they for real with Great Balls Of Fire or have I been duped by the sheets?
I will have to watch this on Hulu. I love Alexa Bliss and the main event reports seem to agree with you from what I read.Big Red Machine wrote:Last night was probably the best Raw they've done in quite a long time. That opening segment and main event were both excellent (the main event managing to do so despite the presence of Bray Wyatt, which is quite the accomplishment).
Alexa was utterly amazing. Nia, Sasha, and Bayley deserve credit as well for their performances, but Alexa showed exactly why she is the future of this company.Mr. Mojo Risin wrote:I will have to watch this on Hulu. I love Alexa Bliss and the main event reports seem to agree with you from what I read.Big Red Machine wrote:Last night was probably the best Raw they've done in quite a long time. That opening segment and main event were both excellent (the main event managing to do so despite the presence of Bray Wyatt, which is quite the accomplishment).
Ryder is back in the ring training in Orlando for his return
Bayley vs. Bliss was notable because the event was in San Jose at the SAP Center, the arena Bayley grew up attending matches in as a child and it was the first time she had ever wrestled in the building. She had done a San Jose match while in NXT, but that was at the college a few blocks away. She did most of the local media, since it was a great story about a former captain of the Independence High School women’s basketball team who now comes back as the WWE champion a decade later.
For whatever reason, unlike everyone who promotes individual combat related sports, Vince McMahon has the general rule that you either beat or humiliate people when they are in their hometowns, if they are in some form associated with the hometown. The avowed reason was that it’s easier to get great heat on heels if they humiliate faces in their hometowns.
Ex-writers have spoken of that rule and that reason for it for years, even though in boxing, kickboxing, MMA, and pro wrestling since the beginning of time, promoters try and make the stars look the strongest in their hometowns because it can build a connection and draw people in if you’ve got a successful local star who has come through regularly.
This isn’t to say Bliss shouldn’t be champion. Bayley won the title too early, evidently because they didn’t think they could keep her fresh in the storyline without putting her over when they did. The original idea was her winning at Mania to then come to San Jose for the big reaction. If she had won at Mania, San Jose would have definitely been too early to lose. I don’t think it’s too early, but it was the wrong place because it hurt the show. Plus, they robbed themselves of a special moment that would have made the show. It’s the same mistake they made in flattening out the Boston show where they had Charlotte beat Sasha Banks on 10/30. They did something similar in the Charlotte show where they had Banks beat Charlotte to win the title on 11/28. So it’s a pattern of having the hometown female star blow it and lose clean. This is very different from shooting a hardcore angle to get over a heel than having a hometown wrestler lose cleanly. There are example after example of cities getting behind wrestlers and fighters in their hometowns with the rule of thumb that you almost never beat them, and when you do, it’s via cheating and to build for even bigger stakes in a rematch. Here, with no localized programs, in the sense you don’t have someone cheated out of a win to set up a cage match in the arena the next month, it makes even less sense. It’s so completely illogical, especially in a city that proved this doctrine more than almost any city in the country with the success of Cung Le. What’s crazy is that in all of the three examples, you could have done the title change if needed the next day or the next week. It’s almost as if WWE wants to not get people over as local stars and hinders them in doing so. Theirs is an argument about the fully controlling mindset on why you would do that, but no other promoter in the same situation would.
She got the biggest reaction by far, and there were signs for her all over the arena. But Bliss wasn’t booed that much and the match itself had nowhere near the reaction of Reigns vs. Strowman, but more than anything else.
The funny part of this is the finish changed four times over the last 30 or so hours before match time. On Saturday afternoon, the call was to put Bayley over. That changed very early Sunday. Then it changed twice more on Sunday. It’s amazing that if you were thinking that Bliss should win the title, that you’d change plans that many times. Plus, the finish didn’t get any heat. Bayley’s head hit the post and Bliss DDT’d and pinned her. The finish was mostly flat, in the sense people didn’t believe it as the finish. There was a brief pop for the title change and there wasn’t all this booing for the cheater who screwed the local woman because it was a clean finish. So that made even less sense.