I'm talking about pay numbers. You seem to know for a fact that WGTT gets paid more than the Bucks but I've not seen anything factual from you. Historical evidence - Hulk Hogan costs more than Ruckus. Also as I said airline tickets can vary based on a number of factors 1. What site you use to book ...

Cole said he's breathing on his own, thank God.

Cole said they're doing CPR backstage. This is not good.

I appreciate the numbers you've provided here You provided them for me - "350-400." I've looked up the Orbitz #s before in another thread on this forum. Can't remember which, but look in my post history. You can deny it but Steen has been getting boos from casual crowds, that is simply a ...

I just read that Lawler had a seizure at the announce table.

They could be talking about ANY iPPV. They never said FB, I recall them just saying an iPPV main event (The guy "guessed" FB in the article). For all we know that might be at the 11th Anniversary or something. PW Insider is just assuming (hence the "I'm guessing") That's why I'v...

Again we don't know that. Flight prices can vary on a bunch of factors. How far the flight is booked in advance, where they fly out of, what site you use to book said flight, etc. Also for all we know the Bucks and WGTT get paid the same amount. You can't just assume someone is paid X amount of dol...

Everyone just think about this for a second... Why is ROH having Rhino challenge Steen at Death Before Dishonor?.....So he can PUT STEEN OVER Why is ROH potentially bringing in Matt Hardy to challenge Kevin Steen?.....So he can PUT STEEN OVER It's pretty simple logic, really (from ROH's POV) I get ...

Opinion. You have no facts to back anything you just said here up. Nobody here knows how much talent gets paid or how much their flights cost. That's why it's logically assumed. I can easily go to Orbitz and book a flight for two from Reseda to New York. I can follow that up by booking a flight for...

The problem I have with that is there are still parts of ROH now that are just like it was. It was never uncommon for bigger names to be on ROH shows like this. Matt Hardy himself appeared once upon a time back in '05. But using these guys as permanent members of the roster like TNA does just doesn'...

BTW I think A LOT of you guys on here are overreacting. You just gotta be patient (not saying I'm for or against Matt Hardy) with these kind of things. Again, it's not like Matt's going to win the strap (he's not). I don't disagree with you about that, but I have no desire to see him main event ROH...

So you're honestly telling me that looking at a crowd like for example Baltimore, ROH isn't drawing the casual crowd into shows? I think we're done talking here if that is the case. Edit: Btw most of your arguments about WGTT, Generico, Rhino, the Bucks etc, are slathered in personal experience and...

Which you can't even prove so it's not even a good point to bring up. Steen getting booed in places like Baltimore and I've heard reports of boos at house shows. Fans rabidly trying to attack heels like Charlie Haas and the amount of heat he has been getting (all of which is legit). Casual fans bei...

Which you can't even prove so it's not even a good point to bring up.

I watched on ROH on SBG today. The opener was the Briscoes vs. BLK OUT in the ROH tag title tourney. I was admittedly disappointed when I read that the Briscoes would face BLK OUT in the opening round, which meant BLK OUT was getting no further than that. I thought it would have been a good opportun...

You still didn't answer my question though. How did you go from "ROH is doing the same avg number it always has on house shows" to "ROH is doing better on house shows now" ?

Hardy lives on the east coast and has done a lot of small indies, I can't imagine him being too expensive. He'll be cheaper to fly in, no doubt, but you've got to imagine he's going to bring the biggest booking fee of all. Although in his defense, as much as it pains me to say this, he has the best...

The Bucks together could be around 1800-2000 to book when you considering a 6-800 dollar plane ticket from Cali and their pay. We're getting this thread off track, this thread is about Matt Hardy not Rhino, WGTT or the Bucks You have to fly in WGTT as well from Texas, which isn't that cheaper than ...

WGTT were a draw for the first couple of months they started in ROH before their tag title run started flopping. Are you saying attendance numbers would be up if ROH replaces WGTT and Rhino with Generico and The Bucks? Do you have anything to back this up? I didn't say that at all. If you read what...

So on one hand: "ROH is doing the same average numbers they always do." On the other hand, "ROH is doing better than they used to." Which one is it? And you can't factually prove ROH draws a more casual crowd, so I'm not sure why you would say that.