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by WHG
Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:02 am
Forum: General ROH Discussion
Topic: NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 11 Official Live Thread
Replies: 44
Views: 3004

Re: NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 11 Official Live Thread

I agree that on the surface the plan seems dumb...but to play the devil's (or in this case, LIzard's) advocate, here are some thoughts on why he may have done this. Not saying I agree with it, but here's some logic to it: 1. He likely promised Kyle the title at contract time last year. Not that it'd...
by WHG
Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:03 pm
Forum: General ROH Discussion
Topic: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD
Replies: 2682
Views: 454022

Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

The most interesting piece in the Torch bit is that O'Reilly does not have a contract offer from NJPW. Made more interesting by the suggestion that Fish DID have an NJPW offer. If that's really true, something's up with Kyle, obviously. Remember that Dave reported that he had a medical condition th...
by WHG
Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:51 pm
Forum: General ROH Discussion
Topic: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD
Replies: 2682
Views: 454022

Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

Hope they signed Hollis, but I'd guess it's just alluding to him being booked for Atlanta. I think they usually use him when they go there.
by WHG
Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:26 am
Forum: General ROH Discussion
Topic: Who would you like to see at ROH?
Replies: 62
Views: 3666

Re: Who would you like to see at ROH?

Agreed on the STARDOM idea. The sad thing is they don't seem to really care about workrate at all with the WOH roster they've assembled.
by WHG
Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:39 am
Forum: General ROH Discussion
Topic: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD
Replies: 2682
Views: 454022

Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

I just realized who I was trying to make a case to that shouting to the world that you're right about something when it doesn't make an actual difference to you isn't always a good idea. Haha. Never mind. It won't hurt Elgin today for all of the reasons that you mentioned. Someday it will catch up w...
by WHG
Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:35 pm
Forum: General ROH Discussion
Topic: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD
Replies: 2682
Views: 454022

Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

Regardless of the promotion, it's impossible for people in power in other promotions to not view it as how he does business. Given the prevalence of talent all over wrestling throughout history unhappy with certain aspects of how their own promotions are run, talents critical of creative, etc..., yo...
by WHG
Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:30 pm
Forum: General ROH Discussion
Topic: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD
Replies: 2682
Views: 454022

Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

Elgin IS right though. He was one of the first people to speak out about ROH's communication issues with talent. That is true...it's such a bad look for him, though. I genuinely thought he learned something when he had the tantrum back in 2014. Publicizing his "departure" and then cryptic...
by WHG
Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:40 pm
Forum: General ROH Discussion
Topic: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD
Replies: 2682
Views: 454022

Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

What a dick...
Big Mike Elgin (via Twitter)
The constant bad news (not for me) pouring in is rather funny to me. I tried to let everyone know, no one cared to listen.
by WHG
Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:19 am
Forum: General ROH Discussion
Topic: The General ROH Complaints Thread
Replies: 71
Views: 11474

Re: The General ROH Complaints Thread

I think part of their ticket pricing issue is they're running some nicer venues. Columbus and Pittsburgh are PromoWest concert venues, which are a big step up from a fairgrounds building and the rural ice rink they used to run. Will it pay off? I kind of doubt given the attendance trends, but as som...
by WHG
Sun Jan 01, 2017 5:05 pm
Forum: General ROH Discussion
Topic: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD
Replies: 2682
Views: 454022

Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

I think talent leaving and houses being down will eventually get Koff's attention. When business was still trending up, there was no chance they'd make real changes. The problem is they may think they fixed everything with Kelly's new role.
by WHG
Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:05 pm
Forum: General ROH Discussion
Topic: Kyle O'Reilly not signed
Replies: 209
Views: 18739

Re: Kyle O'Reilly not signed

The point about Strong beating Briscoe was interesting. It's been kind of commonplace for ROH to book guys really strong or give them a big win at contract time, probably to try to show them they have big plans. That's probably why Fish won SOTF and is the reason they didn't change plans on Kyle whe...
by WHG
Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:43 am
Forum: General ROH Discussion
Topic: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD
Replies: 2682
Views: 454022

Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

Hey rovey, on the Kyle leaving has been known for months thing...are we ignoring the period a few weeks ago where you said it was unlikely any main eventers were going to leave and they'd just lose midcard talent and Cole in the spring?
by WHG
Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:04 am
Forum: General ROH Discussion
Topic: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD
Replies: 2682
Views: 454022

Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

This is a good point about Carroll. At the time when he was let go, everyone was bashing virtually everything that was happening creatively. He may have been well liked, but beyond being credited with the reDRagon act (which I took to mean their early promos, etc... which were gold but had long sinc...
by WHG
Sat Dec 31, 2016 4:12 pm
Forum: General ROH Discussion
Topic: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD
Replies: 2682
Views: 454022

Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

The stories on Fish's booking frustration stem from 2015 when he was told he was going to win the TV title at ASE and they changed the finish. That was before they signed their last deal. I'll buy his frustration with Carroll's firing...but that's business and Fish knows that. Not sure why he'd be p...
by WHG
Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:15 am
Forum: General ROH Discussion
Topic: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD
Replies: 2682
Views: 454022

Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

Great signings (assuming Lee signed as well). Honestly, I think this was far more important than getting War Machine back as they'd already had their run and hit a ceiling.

I also think I would build Lee to a dominant World title run next year (2018). He's that good.
by WHG
Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:57 am
Forum: General ROH Discussion
Topic: Kyle O'Reilly not signed
Replies: 209
Views: 18739

Re: Kyle O'Reilly not signed

For what it's worth, on the VOW podcast last night, they were a little less sure on Cole winning & O'Reilly leaving. Lanza, who kind of started the ball rolling on the public speculation, said "I think O'Reilly's gone. That's just based on my gut feeling, not an insider information. Certain...
by WHG
Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:30 pm
Forum: General ROH Discussion
Topic: Kyle O'Reilly not signed
Replies: 209
Views: 18739

Re: Kyle O'Reilly not signed

For the record, I'm all for anyone posting anything they want. That said, the reason rovert would post anonymously would be to say shit that the people who feed him information have told him they don't want him to publicize. There's plenty of reason for him to do so. And if that's the case, I hope h...
by WHG
Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:43 pm
Forum: General ROH Discussion
Topic: Kyle O'Reilly not signed
Replies: 209
Views: 18739

Re: Kyle O'Reilly not signed

I agree with Mojo on Cole. My assumption for 2 years was he was gone when his contract was up...but if there's one talent I could see them overpaying to keep it'd be Cole. From his perspective he'd have an interesting choice to make. I think Omega & the Bucks give him some reason to at least thi...
by WHG
Wed Dec 28, 2016 12:51 pm
Forum: General ROH Discussion
Topic: Kyle O'Reilly not signed
Replies: 209
Views: 18739

Re: Kyle O'Reilly not signed

Fish & O'Reilly have been traditionally slow to re-sign and we've had the "the sides are no closer to a deal and aren't even talking" story last year at this time and it wasn't until well into January they officially signed. They obviously want him and I think he's going to try to find...
by WHG
Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:04 pm
Forum: General ROH Discussion
Topic: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD
Replies: 2682
Views: 454022

Re: ALL PURPOSE CONTRACT STATUS/POTENTIAL DEPARTURES THREAD

Cedric was delivering inconsistently in the ring. That was kind of the story of his ROH run. He had stuff to do in that timeframe as well. After underdelivering on PPV with Roddy, he had the shot at Elgin that was a huge letdown after their first match. In the months that followed, he had a feud wit...